The title of this recording is "Kāpiti Gay PrideNZ 2022 retrospective". It is described as: Kāpiti Gay host Tony Reed talks to PrideNZ founder Gareth Watkins about some of the significant people and events recorded in 2022 by PrideNZ. It was recorded in Coast Access Radio on the 21st January 2023. This is a recording of a broadcast and features the voices of Cameron Kapua-Morrell, Coral Trimmer, Elizabeth Kerekere, Gareth Watkins, Jacquie Grant, Jan Logie, Logan Robertson, Ngahuia Te Awekotuku, Nicola Willis, Stephen Berry, Sylvia Bagnall and Tony Reed. Their names are spelt correctly, but may appear incorrectly spelt later in the document. The duration of the recording is 30 minutes, but this may not reflect the actual length of the broadcast. A list of correctly spelt content keywords and tags can be found at the end of this document. A brief description of the recording is: Kāpiti Gay host Tony Reed talks to PrideNZ founder Gareth Watkins about some of the significant people and events recorded in 2022 by PrideNZ. The content in the recording covers the decades 1960s through to the 2020s. A brief summary of the recording is: The 2022 Kāpitī Gay PrideNZ retrospective, recorded for Coast Access Radio in January 2023, offers an insightful overview of key events and individuals who shaped Aotearoa New Zealand’s rainbow communities during the year. Hosted by Tony Reed, the broadcast features a wide-ranging conversation with PrideNZ founder Gareth Watkins, highlighting significant moments and voices from across the country. The year was marked by the continued impact of the COVID-19 pandemic, which delayed many in-person Pride events until mid-year. Nevertheless, 2022 emerged as a vibrant year for community engagement and memory-making. One deeply symbolic initiative involved the installation of two memorial seats in Wellington to honour rainbow icons Carmen Rupe and Chrissy Witoko. Gareth and partner Roger Smith collaborated with the Wellington City Council to place the seats at the intersection of Cuba and Vivian Streets, a nod to the legacy of LGBTQ+ hospitality in the city. Jacquie Grant, a friend of both Carmen and Chrissy, attended the unveiling and shared compelling stories from the 1960s, including the colourful history of the Doodle Inn, reputedly the city’s first topless restaurant. Another key event celebrated was the Living in Colour Pride festival in Lower Hutt, a community-led initiative that coincided with Matariki, the Māori New Year. Organiser Cameron Kapua-Morrell spoke passionately about creating inclusive spaces for rangatahi (young people) and embedding kaupapa Māori values into Pride celebrations. The event not only showcased artistic performances and community stalls, but also conveyed messages of empowerment and belonging for rainbow communities living outside metropolitan centres. The world’s “shortest Pride parade” in Paekākāriki, held annually during Labour Weekend, also featured prominently. The event captured a strong sense of community spirit and intergenerational pride. Among the parade participants were married couple Coral Trimmer and Sylvia Bagnall. In an interview recorded later, Coral, aged 92, recounted a powerful memory of meeting a Dutch World War II resistance hero who had emigrated to New Zealand. This narrative illustrated the lasting effects of trauma and the importance of preserving oral histories within rainbow communities. The broadcast also addressed the controversial topic of hate speech and legislative reform. Watkins discussed the limitations of current protections in the Human Rights Act, which, at the time, did not extend to cover sexuality or gender identity. The programme revisited a 2017 sermon by Auckland pastor Logan Robertson, whose violently homophobic comments sparked outrage but were deemed legally permissible under current laws. Excerpts from interviews with politicians Nicola Willis, Jan Logie, and Stephen Berry revealed divergent views on the need for stronger hate speech legislation. While all condemned the pastor’s comments, they varied in their stance on legal restrictions versus free speech protections. Further reflections were offered by veteran activist Ngahuia Te Awekotuku. Ngahuia urged ongoing vigilance, citing the recent overturning of Roe v. Wade in the United States as a stark reminder of how quickly rights can be eroded. The retrospective concluded with a celebration of InsideOUT Kōaro, a national charity dedicated to creating safe and inclusive environments for rainbow youth. At its tenth anniversary event, Dr Elizabeth Kerekere spoke about the importance of intergenerational support and indigenous frameworks that honour diverse identities. Kerekere underscored the transformative power of everyday actions in shaping a more inclusive society and encouraged the next generation to continue building on the legacies of those who came before. Altogether, the broadcast paints a rich picture of resilience, reflection, and renewal within Aotearoa’s rainbow communities. Through stories of activism, remembrance, celebration, and advocacy, the 2022 retrospective captures a year of both challenge and growth. The full transcription of the recording begins:  Hello, my name is Tony Reed. Welcome to GAYA radio program for L-G-B-T-I people and their friends on Coast Access Radio 1 0 4 0. 7 FM and and other access radio stations around New Zealand. Today is my annual encounter with Gareth Watkins. Um, and his husband Roger Smith, who come and give us little, uh, exciting clips from the news over the year, which have come as a result of normally interviews on, on Pride nz and, uh, 19 and in 2022, quite a bit happened, so I better hand over immediately. To Gareth. Oh, so we don't run out of town. Kiao Tony. And, uh, thank you so much for having us on. It's, um, it's always lovely to, to come up here, um, at the start of the year and look back at, uh, some amazing events, which happened last year, and last year was such a big year. Um, I'm thinking particularly of things like, um, COVID and the response and, you know, when you think of like at the, at the start of the year. Uh, we had very little omicron in the community and then, you know, over the, over the last year, it's, it's kind of spread throughout. We've had vaccinations and masks and all of that has impacted on a lot of, uh, pride events. And I was reflecting, um, the other day about, um, a lot of pride events kind of didn't really start in person again until about the middle of the year. And then kind of a bit later in 2022, um, there were, there were more and more one of those, um, which was a really special event for both Roger and I was. Uh, we, we, we helped install two, two memorial seats for two Rainbow E icons, particularly in Wellington, Carmen Rupe and Chrissy Ku. And, uh, we worked with the city council in Wellington to put two seats on the corner of Cuba and Vivian Street. And both, um, Carmen and Chrissy ran, uh, hospitality establishments in Wellington in the sixties, seventies, and in, uh, Chrissy's case right through until the two thousands. And, um. We, uh, were very fortunate to have Jackie Grant, who is on the West Coast, in the South Island. Uh, she came up to Wellington, uh, to help launch these seats. Jackie was a friend of both, uh, Chrissy and Carmen. And, uh, a day before the launch we, uh, I was able to sit down with Jackie and do an interview with her. And she was talking about her time in Wellington in the sixties, and she told this amazing story about her and, uh, Chrissy, we who setting up the Doodle Inn. And the Doodle Inn was opposite parliament on Ellsworth Street in the 1960s. It was, uh, originally a, a, a restaurant. And, uh, they took it on and, uh, transformed it into the first topless restaurant in Wellington. And, uh, she was just recounting this wonderful story, uh, where she's talking about the previous owners had a, a, a standard booking for a regular round table meeting of religious leaders in Wellington. And when they took on the doodle in, um, they turned it into something special. We decided to introduce the topless waitresses on that night when the round table had their thing, because we thought if they're gonna arrest us, they're gonna arrest half of the. Leading clergy in, in Wellington, that's probably not gonna happen. So we rang up the TV people and the, um, radio station and they're all there behind us. Anyway, they, these poor guys didn't have a clue what was about to happen. So anyway, I'll call her. Mary, Mary had a big tray. Was piled up with meals and the meal was breast of chicken. We thought breast of chicken was gonna be appropriate. And she was holding this tray. She had this tiny little mini skirt, nothing on top, um, except she had one breast in the middle of. Yeah, those two plates and one breast in the middle of those two plates and up, she chopped up the stairs and started putting their meals out with a straighter face you've ever seen. And these poor guys were just, and the, and the cameras and the radio people were right behind them asking them for comment. And what could they do, but just join in on the joke, you know? And we never got, um, we didn't get arrested. We never got, we never got a visit from the cops. But about four months later, it mysteriously caught fire in the middle of the night and burnt down. I think more Bob Maldoon had something to do with that. Um, he didn't like the idea of it, but we had lots of peace sneak in. And we had no money when we were doing this either. So what what used to happen was 10 schillings to get in and we opened at four o'clock and by about 4, 5 30, 6 o'clock we were finished. We were done. Um, because there were no office workers left in town. And what they used to do, they'd come in and in the raincoat and pull their coats up and they come in there, pay their tin shillings, and go upstairs and sit in the corner. And, and we only had two things on the menu with steak or fish. So someone had come in and they'd order, we loved it when they ordered steak because they never ate it. So we could recycle a piece of steak about six times during the night and if they ordered fish, Chrissy had run into the fish and shop, shop next door and order a piece of fish and half a scoop. And I'd run up to the, to the, to the, because we didn't have any money when we got there that night, you know? So we had to buy the ingredients. I'd run up to the green growers just up the road and get a tomato and a lettuce, and. And we always had a bottle of mayonnaise and we'd soo the meal. The meals always looked quite good, but they'd, they'd take one bite. The fish was buggered. You couldn't recycle fish, battered fish, but steak, you just trimmed her up and sent it up to the next one and there'd be another little bit out of it, slice out of it, and you'd send it back up. A very wonderful Jackie Grant, and it was so wonderful to have Jackie, uh, here in Wellington, uh, to be able to help launch those two wonderful, uh, seats. Well, stepping back a little bit earlier in 2022 and back to July, and it was one of the. First in-person Pride events we were able to attend. It was the Living in Color Pride event, and it was held at the Do Art Museum in Lower Hut. And this is the second year that the Hut Valley Pride, uh, has taken place. Uh, they have a whole variety of performances and community stalls, and it's time to coincide with Maki, the the Maori New Year. And here's one of the, uh, lead organizers, Cameron Kapore, at the start of the event. So this whole day I've been in a constant state of overwhelm. Like I'm full of. Wow. And it is overflowing. That's why I'm sitting here trying to be quiet and just focus my energies. And because I'm so overwhelmed, this is so beautiful. Ain't nothing could've been better. This is the most amazing thing. This to me is, uh, what I feel like as a young aka that grew up in de. This is what I would've loved to have seen. I would've loved to have grown up to know that it was okay to be me. And so this day is not just about us entertaining everyone, being excellent and tying it in with Maki. It's also a way for us to nurture those ener, the energy and the seeds of potential within our young people to let them know, no matter what you are, no matter what you look like, no matter how you identify, there is space for you. And. We welcome you. This event is also tied in with Maki, and I wonder, um, could you explain the significance of tying it to Maki? So, in the beginning we started this event, and it was around the Maki time of last year, which I believe was around the 17th to the 19th of July. That was, we're sort of just at the, we were still within the time that mat appeared in our and our skies. Um, the importance for us was that not only were we wanting recognition as the rainbow community and to. You know, be broadcast, the how special we are. Um, but also around the time that we're planning it for Maki just so happened to, um, appear before us. And so we thought, what a better way than to merge Kahuku the Rainbow with that of the stars, both celestial things and both with, um, very, uh, strong meanings to us. And so we've used Mat. Um, as a way to kickstart us off with the right energy. Um, 'cause Maki is a time about reflection. Looking back on the past and those who have gone before us, it's about celebration. Looking at what we've done so far, the year that has just gone by and it's about, um, future settings. So what do we want for the future? How are we gonna look after the generations to come? What are we doing for them in order to support them? And so this event. And the themes of Maari perfectly tied into one another for, for people living in larger centers, so like Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch, they, they, they have annual pride events. Why is it important for local pride events to happen? I really love that. That's a very beautiful question. The reason why this whole COPA started out here in the hut is because of that, um, we noticed that all of the energy resources, and. Anything that is, anything gets pulled towards our bigger cities and we know that us out here in the smaller parts of the country still have a lot to offer. And so we thought instead of our kids and our wana having to travel into town to, uh, celebrate something within their community, but away from where they live, um, why don't we start something right here in the heart of their community so that one, they don't have to travel far. Two, it's more reflective of who. The Hut Valley are. And um, and three, it was just a way for us to make something of our, like make a stamp on our world. Um, as another, it's connected to this hut. City is a city of firsts. So, um, and one of these firsts is, uh, we have the Tonga, the New Zealand. And the pride flag now rise and flying above our council and nowhere else in the country have I seen that. And so, um, if that's a demonstration to the city that our council is behind us and our council serve us. And so we are sort of just wrapped up into this big ball of energy to put our stamp on something too. The council have made their declaration as like a local government entity. This is our declaration as a community group. It was such a, a wonderful community spirit at the Hut Valley Pride event. It was really, really fantastic. Another, um, event that, uh, was just so joyful, it was the world's unofficial shortest pride parade, which happens in Paki every year, uh, during, uh, labor Weekend in October, and it's. Just, it brings the community together, doesn't it? Yes. I was there and it's, it's quite a family event and there's all sorts and shapes and sizes. Yeah, it was a lots and lots of lesbians. Of course. Fantastic day. Uh, we were delighted to meet two people on the, on the parade, uh, which were Coral Trimmer and Sylvia Bagnall. And Coral is 92 years old. Uh, she had just returned, uh, to New Zealand, um, after living in Australia for, uh, quite a, a number of years. And Coral and Sylvia had just recently got married. And, uh, they were just delightful. And so we actually paid another visit to them, um, a bit later on after Pride and, uh, did an interview about their lives together. And during that interview, coral recounted a, a really fascinating, uh, story about her first meeting with. Um, a Dutch World War II hero who had actually been imprisoned by the Nazis and, uh, ret, uh, uh, subsequently moved to New Zealand and the Pier met in Wellington when Coral was in her early twenties. And, uh, I should note this is, um, I mean, this is a really fascinating story, but the, the, the bit of audio does contain, um, uh, graphic description of REIT's war experience and out walked this woman with a big smile. She was, uh, 10 years, I was 23. She was 33. She walked out and sat opposite me and she looked and she said, my name's rt. And I said, I couldn't talk. I just mouthed the word choral and shook hands. And she looked at me and she said, do you like boys? I said, oh, no, I couldn't talk. No. And she said, good. You like girls? I said, yes, you noted my head. And she was, she was really, truly wonderful. She knew that I was terrified. I had no idea about love between women. All I knew was what I felt. And, um, what happened was she was distributing anti-Nazi pamphlets during, at the beginning of the occupation. Um, it was in Amsterdam. And, um, I've seen photographs of her at, at that age, at 21 and she was very beautiful, extremely beautiful woman. And, um, what she had to do. To get through that time. I dunno, I didn't ask her, I didn't ask her anything about the war because I thought they could open wounds. I knew if she wanted me to know, she would tell me, and she did at times. But, um, there were little things that happened. I mean, uh, uh, when we lived in, in Pari, we close to the Hut River and there big rocks. Along the hut rover and, and quite often she and I would walk along there and we're walking along there one day and she stopped and I thought she was going to pass out. And I held her and managed to sit down with her. I said, what's wrong? And she said that red paint, some of the spillt red paint on the rocks. And then she told me the story about some Nazis head soldiers had been, a couple of them had been killed. By the resistance movement as and as a reprisal. They stopped people in the, um, in the city, in town and picked out, selected half a dozen, blah, blah. Men, women, children, anybody. They stood there and all the other people, and she happened to be one of them. They made them stand and watch while they machine gunned these innocent people, and then they made her walk. Through the blood, over the bodies, and that's what it reminded her of. So these things sometimes would come crashing back. When I listen to Coral's story, it really does make me think of, of how, actually, how close we are to the past. When you think that, uh, my connection to Coral and her connection to Rhett, and now we are back in Nazi. Nazi times in World War II and just how close history actually is. Um, it also makes me think of how, um, important it is to be really vi vigilant about human rights and how quickly, um, things can turn really, really nasty. Uh, and that brings us to, um, something that's been bubbling away for a few years, which is the hate speech legislation, which is, um, currently, um. Going, you know, the government is kind of working towards the government's working on strengthening the Human Rights Act to prohibit hate speech in relation to religious belief. But they recently have, um, uh, not covered, uh, sexuality or gender or said that they're not going to do that at, at this stage. Um, a really. Strong example of hate speech for me was back in 2017 and it was, um, there was a pastor, I think he was an Auckland, um, pastor Logan Robertson, and he, uh, did a sermon that was, uh, then broadcast on a couple of platforms and the police felt he hadn't broken any laws. The time with his comments. And, um, that was actually affirmed in December last year when a high court judge said that his comments were perfectly legal and boom, you know, I, I just think they're pretty horrific to be honest. Um, and, you know, I would certainly classify them as hate speech. Um. Prior to the 2017 general election, a number of politicians, uh, had a, had a get together, and I was able to ask them their views on hate speech and in particular, um, what they thought of the pastor's comments. And in this audio clip from 2017, the, um, the pastor begins the, uh, the clip of the pastor begins the, the excerpt. My view on homo marriage is that the Bible never mentions it, so I'm not against them getting married as long as a bullet goes through their head the moment they kiss, because that's what it talks about. And they're not homo marriage, but a homo death. Now, there's no such thing as homo marriage, and it's not even marriage anyway, but that's what should happen. Nicola Willis from the National Party. So obviously those comments by that pastor were disgusting. And what was good to see was that they were widely criticized by a broad range of New Zealanders. I don't think anyone defended him. And That's right. Uh, and proper. Um, I think my, um, concern with these issues is that where people make those comments that we stand up and we condemn them for them. Do you think we need to actually hate speech legislation? I wouldn't jump into that because any legislation like that runs the risk of oppressing people's right to free speech. And when we look at the change that has happened in our community over time, often that has happened because people have been able to speak, uh, freely. Uh, but I don't think that speech, the right to free speech, means that you can be a complete idiot, um, and be really nasty. Yeah. So whether or not legislation is required, there isn't something, I mean, it's just not something I would jump into. So you would defend his right to be able to say what he said? Um, I don't think he should have said what he said. I, I absolutely don't think he should have said what he said. Um, and I think it was offensive and intolerable, and I think that's the message he will have received. Loud and clear. So why do you think, I mean, the police came out saying that they couldn't prosecute him because he hadn't broken any, any law. Mm. I mean, do you have any thoughts on that? Well, um, I think that if I were him and I had received headlines across the country from, from people telling me that what I had said was disgusting, I would be reflecting right now and I would not be making those comments again. And I am glad that that's the way our New Zealand community works, that we turn on people. Bull who use such horrible speech. So I'm Steven Berry, I'm number five on the list for the act party. Um, I hate, hate speech as much as anyone else, but I also believe in freedom of speech more, um, more than I dislike Kate's speech. Um, the guy from West Auckland, what he said was absolutely disgusting. Um, I absolutely unreservedly condemn it. Um, but it's probably as disgusting as you can get without actually inciting violence and, you know, uh, what value is free speech if we don't protect unpopular speech? See, I, I, I would question that he wasn't inciting violence because he did say actually that, that gay people share bullets through their heads. So, I mean, why isn't that inciting violence? Um, if he was actually getting people together and organizing them to go and put. Bullets through people's heads. That would be a different thing if he was leading a rally, um, telling the people following him to put bullets through their heads, that would be inciting violence. It is a very, very fine line. Um, and it's one that he danced a Mary jig over, but it doesn't quite cross the threshold of incitement. But as I say, just because I believe passionately in freedom of speech, that is not an endorsement of, uh, the disgusting single this person has said. And, um, the fact is that we have freedom of speech, not that we can talk about the weather. But because we can say very controversial things, so Jan Logie, green Party MP and Rainbow Spokesperson. Um, so I've been following that in the media along I guess with everyone else in the community, being horrified by it and, but made a decision not to speak publicly about it because. This is the second time that he's done that and his congregation has grown since the first time, and I, I don't want to give him any more public attention in terms of that hatefulness because I think he's in a process of trying to recruit based on those views. And I do think this is an example though, that we do need to look at our hate speech legislation and we also need to renew efforts. Of community building and establishing links between diverse communities and engaging, um, some of the mainstream churches in some of that work with the more outlying churches. I was really surprised the police coming out saying that they couldn't prosecute. There was no, there was no criminal act. Yeah. And despite that being very, um, being felt by many of us, I think as, as a threat of violence and an inc excitement to violence. But, um, I, I think it is a call for us to look at our legislation. So watch the space in 2023 for how that hate speech legislation plays out. Yes. Um, I would like to say how naive Nicola Willis is suggesting that because everybody disapproves of him, that he'll change, that, he'll change his tune. He's a fundamentalist Christian. He would, he will treat universal condemnation as a badge of honor and pride, and she should know that that's the case. I'm rather concerned that it's only gone to religion. I don't oppose, uh, it, it, it, it, it going to religion. But the world, especially the United States who are, who are who admittedly not New Zealand, but are very influential in fundamentalist Christian circles, treat freedom of religion as the freedom to tell everybody else what to do and basically to be bullies. And, uh, I want to, I will plan to go to the select committee when it, if and when it comes out and say that the, say that if you're only doing religion, you must make very sure that we don't end up with a situation where fundamentalist Christians can lord it over the rest of us and tell us how to behave. I, I think 2023 is gonna be a great year for, um, asking politicians. About hate speech because of course it's the general election and there will be, uh, many, hopefully many opportunities and political forums to actually put our questions to them. Yeah. Um, because I, I think this is, this is a time to actually really stand up and make sure that, um, hate speech actually covers, uh, everyone. Yeah. Yeah. Well, somebody with a finger. Always keeping a finger on the pulse of human rights in, in is activist and academic. Uh, and, uh, Nhu, uh, right back from the 1970s, uh, has been, um, an activist on many fronts. 1972, she was the one that stood up and said, let's start a revolution. I think she actually screamed that, um, I'm not gonna scream it now, but, um, it was, it was really impassioned and that ignited gay liberation in New Zealand. And so 2022 was the 50th anniversary of gay lib in New Zealand, and one of the big events to mark that occasion was a special panel discussion at the National Library in August. And here's a bit of speaking at that event. I should note that, um, this event happened about six weeks after the US Supreme Court. Had overturned the Roe versus Wade decision, which was a law that made access to an abortion in the us uh, a federal right. Um, and that has, uh, that had just been overturned, I think of here, the clo whom we all remember and revere, and the work he did. And in his biography, he said, the fight will never end. Now, I don't wanna be negative, but when we look around us, when we think about Roe versus Wade and how it took 50 years for them to flip that so easily, we must never take stuff for granted. But no, because it's 22. 2022. We fight this battle with joy because we have tasted that freedom. We have enjoyed the privilege of civil union. We have changed our passports. We have been able to marry each other, so it's from, I think, a much stronger position. We continue the fight, but until every one of us is safe, the fight will continue. I think of kids living in the rural areas, in the regions and how vulnerable they are and is their only choice to come to the metropolitan cities. What future is there for them? The wonderful naia and the thing that really, um, speaks to me from now what, when NAIA speaks, is that always looking to the future, always looking to say that actually what do we need to fix? You know, what, what is the next thing that we need to, to fix and to challenge. It's never kind of resting back on something, uh, you know, she did 40 years ago. It's always looking forward. Somebody else who is always looking forward is, uh, Dr. Elizabeth Ri. And the last clip today, uh, comes from a celebration to Mark the 10th birthday of Inside Out. So Inside Out is a, a national charity providing education and resources to make sure, um, rainbow young people have a sense of safety and belonging. Uh, and in 2022 they celebrated their 10th anniversary, and one of the distinguished speakers was Elizabeth. I came from being a youth activist myself. Nothing like this existed. When I was a young person. I got lots of crap because I was fem and who did I think I was? Uh, people had lots of gr craven suggestions of how I could be turned straight, and it was always something that when I went on to found Una. That from the beginning because we bring those Maori values into everything we do. Then it's about whanau that we as elders are always wanting to be here for our young people. Regardless of the decisions, regardless of all the things you wanna do, it's our job to stand there and support you and never. You will know anyone who's been around. When we say young people are not the leaders of tomorrow, they are the leaders we need right now. This room is full of those leaders and I'm so, so thankful for all of you. And we say when Nano is operating well, people of every generation have their place. They're valued, they're honored, they're recognize. We all work. Together, and that's what I see that you do. You've made yourself part of our communities and connected in with so much of the work that we do. It's my dream for all of you to grow old, to get your gray hairs, which you may color in any which way you like, and to be someone who can be there and use your experience, your knowledge, and your love. For the young people that are gonna come a hundred years from now, there's gonna be a group of young people looking at the photos from this event and it will change their life, continue being the the change maker. And sometimes it's not the big dramatic things that is always remember that it's being in your family and someone makes that joke and you go, you know what? Not funny. Don't do it again in front of me. So whatever it is we do in the world, some of you know, I talk about the this of health and wellbeing for all of us based on the fact that our people accepted diverse sexuality and gender in this country. Before colonization. Every single thing we do, we help rebuild that. We make this place conceptual place. Safer and more amazing for all of us, but actually we create a society that is safer and better for all of us. The wonderful Elizabeth and, uh, yeah, what a, what an amazing event that 10th birthday celebration for Inside Out was and happy birthday inside out. And Tony, that's, um, a brief look at what, what we were maybe doing in 2022. Yes, thank you very much. I should point out that Elizabeth Kerry Carey was in fact the first of the new gay and lesbian mps that I interviewed after the last, um, after the last election. And she has played sort of quite a, uh, quite a role, uh, the turfs hater. So that's, so she's, so she's had some positive. Um, side. Um, anyway, thank you very much Gareth for the, uh, uh, for the, for your, for your usual well timed as well. Um, of, uh, summary of, um, um, of the events of the last year. And let's hope, let's hope years time we're, we are still remaining fairly positive. So thank you very much. Thank you. You can hear this program again next Tuesday at 8:00 PM or Thursday at 5:00 PM It is also available on our website at DubDubDub dot coast access radio. org. nz, or just Google Coast Access Radio. This is Tony Reed for GIY on Coast Access Radio 1 0 4 0. 7 fm and other access stations around New Zealand. This program is made with assistance from New Zealand on air, for radio broadcast, and through the Access media. nz website. Thank you New Zealand on air. The full transcription of the recording ends. A list of keywords/tags describing the recording follow. These tags contain the correct spellings of names and places which may have been incorrectly spelt earlier in the document. 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