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Committee of the Whole House

Audio from parts of the Committee of the Whole House during the Homosexual Law Reform Bill, 26 March 1986 (part 1 of 2).

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A more detailed log of this recording is available on the LAGANZ website, see pages 0234-A and 0234-B.

  • 0:00:10 - Speaker
  • 0:01:40 - Roger McClay   (Waikaremoana, National Party)
  • 0:06:20 - Geoff Braybrooke   (Napier, Labour Party)
  • 0:11:24 - Maurice McTigue   (Timaru, National Party)
  • 0:16:22 - Roger McClay   (Waikaremoana, National Party)
  • 0:17:10 - [recording stops abruptly]
  • 0:17:08 - Roger McClay continues
  • 0:21:15 - Jim Anderton   (Sydenham, Labour Party)
  • 0:26:15 - Geoff Braybrooke   (Napier, Labour Party)
  • 0:31:15 - Fran Wilde   (Wellington Central, Labour Party)
  • 0:37:04 - Trevor Young   (Eastern Hutt, Labour Party)
  • 0:45:01 - [cassette ends; recording stops abruptly]
  • 0:45:03 - Russell Marshall   (Wanganui, Labour Party)
  • 0:50:04 - Geoff Braybrooke   (Napier, Labour Party)
  • 0:55:05 - Venn Young   (Waitotara, National Party)
  • 1:01:42 - Bill Sutton   (Hawkes Bay, Labour Party)
  • 1:07:30 - Ian McLean   (Tarawera, National Party)
  • 1:11:00 - Whetu Tirikatene Sullivan   (Southern Maori, Labour Party)
  • 1:16:50 - John Banks   (Whangarei, National Party)
  • 1:21:52 - Michael Cullen   (St Kilda, Labour Party)
  • 1:26:50 - Graeme Lee   (Hauraki, National Party)

Summary

On March 26, 1986, a vital parliamentary debate unfolded in Wellington, New Zealand, focused on the Homosexual Law Reform Bill. Key members of Parliament, including Bill Sutton, Fran Wilde, Geoff Braybrooke, and others, vocalized their positions, illustrating a nation at a pivotal crossroads in its legislative history regarding human rights and equality. The discourse addressed various perspectives on whether to decriminalize sexual acts between consenting individuals of the same sex.

The primary contention lay in determining the age of consent. One side, aligned with Fran Wilde, the bill's proponent, argued for equal treatment under the law and the elimination of discrimination based on sexual orientation. They insisted that criminalizing consensual sexual acts between adults in private does not align with advancing a fair and equitable society. They argued that sexual orientation is established early in life and that legislation should not target people based on their sexual preferences.

In stark contrast, opponents of the bill, like John Banks, vehemently objected, calling the legislation "evil" and a threat to societal morals and the family unit. Banks contended that a significant portion of the population disapproved of the bill, as evidenced by a petition signed by over 800,000 individuals rejecting the proposed law reform.

The deliberation stretched beyond the age of consent, with concerns about the potential creation of homosexual brothels and the notion that legalizing sodomy could lead to more significant societal shifts, including the legalization of other controversial activities.

Meanwhile, references to developments in international jurisdictions, such as the recent passage of anti-discrimination legislation in New York, provided additional context and sparked debate about the direction and implications of such legal reforms. The New York law had prompted strong responses, including a threat from Cardinal John O'Connor to close down Catholic institutions if unable to operate under the new law faithfully, thus showcasing the depth of the divide on such human rights issues.

This parliamentary sitting encapsulated a crucial moment in New Zealand's legislative history as it grappled with questions of legal rights, societal norms, and the balance between individual freedom and community morals. While the arguments presented were deeply passionate and often polarizing, the debate underscored New Zealand's engagement with fundamental human rights principles and the complexities of reflecting diverse public sentiment in lawmaking.

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Record date:26th March 1986
Audio courtesy of:Lesbian and Gay Archives of New Zealand (LAGANZ)
Location:Parliament buildings, Wellington
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URL:https://www.pridenz.com/homosexual_law_reform_parliament_26_march_1986_part_1.html