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Educating Gays

In this podcast we explore what it's like to be gay at school - both as a student and as a teacher at the end of the 20th Century.

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The podcast titled "Educating Gays," recorded on February 27th, 1999, in Wellington, Aotearoa New Zealand, delves into the experiences of gay students and educators in schools towards the end of the 20th century, specifically focusing on the 1980s and 1990s. Throughout the podcast, various voices, including those of Shane Town and Stuart Douce, provide personal insights into the challenges faced due to their sexual orientation within educational settings.

The podcast begins with a comment about the difficulty of navigating school life when one cannot express their true identity, feeling pressured to conceal their sexuality to avoid being ostracized. One educator describes their role as a tightrope walk, balancing the need to manage others' insecurities about sexuality with maintaining a professional environment. The podcast highlights the emotional toll of such duplicity on individuals, which in some cases, leads to severe mental health issues, including suicide attempts.

Another perspective is offered by an educator who aspires to be a role model for gay students, emphasizing the importance of visibility and support. They reflect on the impact it would have made to have had an openly gay teacher during their school years. However, being openly gay poses challenges, illustrated by an account of a teacher's unintended public exposure due to their image being broadcast on television after they featured in a magazine. This incident led to a mix of reactions from students, ranging from silence to overt hostility.

The speakers further discuss the absence of, or inadequate, support for gay students within the school system. The curriculum is criticized for not being inclusive of gay history and role models, forcing students to find validation in external support groups. The lack of open discussion about homosexuality in schools reinforces the feeling of isolation among gay students.

There's also commentary on the societal shifts following legislative advancements, such as the Homosexual Law Reform and Human Rights Legislation, which created a paradoxical landscape; more visibility and rights alongside persistent homophobia. Schools are said to avoid deeper engagement with issues of sexual identity outside of the limited framework of sexual health and safe sex, leaving young gay students with little knowledge of identity beyond the specter of AIDS.

Some individuals share their personal journeys, detailing the process of coming out to friends and family, with mixed reactions. Support systems outside of school, such as Icebreakers, a support group, were crucial for these individuals in navigating their identities.

The podcast concludes with reflections on the role of LGBTQ+ educators. There's a recognition of the benefits that students gain from having LGBTQ+ teachers who can be visible and positive role models. However, it's acknowledged that there's a delicate balance to be struck in offering support without crossing professional boundaries. The speakers believe that actively promoting gay issues within education is essential in order to fight persistent prejudice and provide urgently needed support for young individuals struggling with their sexual identity.

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Record date:27th February 1999
Interviewer:Gareth Watkins
Copyright:pridenz.com
Location:Wellington, Aotearoa New Zealand
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Archive:The master recording is archived at the Alexander Turnbull Library (OHDL-003833).
URL:https://www.pridenz.com/educating_gays.html