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| media_reference | 000918 |
| media_source | PrideNZ.com |
| copyright_position | In copyright |
| copyright_ownership | Gareth Watkins (PrideNZ.com) |
| copyright_ownership_note | |
| submitted_to_nlnz | 25-11-2022 |
| public_url | https://www.pridenz.com/coral_trimmer_and_sylvia_bagnall.html |
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| production_date | 13-11-2022 |
| production_day | 13 |
| production_month | 11 |
| production_year | 2022 |
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| title | Coral Trimmer and Sylvia Bagnall |
| description | Coral Trimmer and Sylvia Bagnall talk about their relationship, getting married, the past and future. |
| summary_computer_generated | In an intimate interview recorded in Paekākāriki, Kapiti Coast District, Coral Trimmer and Sylvia Bagnall reveal their deep connection, the development of their relationship, and the shared experiences that have shaped their lives from the 1940s through the 2020s. They discuss the origins of their union, first meeting at a local museum when Coral visited from Melbourne. As Coral navigated the challenges of supporting a partner with dementia, a new bond with Sylvia organically formed through social gatherings and chance encounters. Coral speaks candidly about the difficulties faced by LGBTQ+ individuals in the past, expressing an aversion to labels and a preference for simplicity in self-identity. Their connection developed into a loving partnership despite initial hesitations, with melodies intertwining; Coral’s music shifts, becoming an expression of love for Sylvia. Nonetheless, memories of past loves resonate, as Coral reflects on the significance of Riet Hoagland, a Dutch war hero and a preceding partner who educated Coral on love and companionship. The couple also delves into dealing with dementia, both having seen the deteriorative effects on previous partners, an emotional challenge that interweaves with their current joy and affection. Their narrative is peppered with tender gestures and shared appreciations, from enjoying sunsets to the melodies of their life together. Despite the personal and historical pain they recount, such as the traumas of World War II and societal rejection, they advocate for love and joy. Their recent marriage in 2022 symbolizes the normalization of LGBTQ+ unions and the validation of their love. Coral and Sylvia's story transcends age and societal constraints, demonstrating that authenticity and profound connections can flourish throughout one’s life. The interview closes with Coral and Sylvia making wishes for each other, featuring Coral’s desire for Sylvia’s pain-free existence and continuing joy in their union, while Sylvia hopes for enduring love in their golden years. The overarching theme is one of fulfillment, an aspiration for each day to be lived with love and gratitude. |
| interviewer | Gareth Watkins |
| voices | Coral Trimmer; Sylvia Bagnall |
| tags | butch; gay; lesbian; 1940s; 1950s; 2020s; affection; bordello; brothels; cafe; children; compulsory heterosexuality; COVID-19 (coronavirus); COVID-19 lockdown; dementia; film star; funeral; Gypsy; harmonica; Judaism; letter; love; lover; marriage; marriage equality; music; musician; Nazi Germany; Nazism; performance; piano; Pōhutukawa tree; police; potluck dinners; racism; relationships; resistance; suicidal; sunset; surface marriage; txt; wish; Auschwitz concentration camp; Paekākāriki Bowling Club; Sadler's Wells Theatre (London); St Peter's Village Hall; Aotearoa New Zealand; Auckland; Australia; Melbourne; Paekākāriki; Petone; Pomare; 1ZB (radio); 2ZB (radio); Fire and Emergency New Zealand; Flaming Dagger (gang); Jewish Lesbian Group of Victoria (Australia); The World's (Unofficial) Shortest Pride Parade; World War 2; Coral Trimmer; Dorothea Franci; Frank Sinatra; Helen Moulder; Janet Holborow; Jon Trimmer; Pat McIntosh; Riet Hoagland; Sylvia Bagnall; Val Little |
| tags_computer_generated | sexuality; politics; radio; sex; suicide; labels; family; Wellington; arts; law; venues; library; writing; Netherlands; London; Paris; Amsterdam; scene; parents; friends; death; film; documentary; Radio New Zealand; organising; community; Holland; prison; Pride parade; women; cars; composition; camp; singing; faith; food; heterosexual; wedding; hate; ancestors; difference; loss; comedy; hope; humour; grandchildren; Stuff; rejection; fun; sculpture; change; shorts; occupation; barriers; hair; ballet; bottom; clubs; Hong Kong; walking; feelings; beauty; other; flaming; hiding; army; parade; truth; soul; unnatural; sewing; teacher; work; cancer; puberty; face; pain; blood; plan; witness; water; emotional; security; normal; holding hands; dresses; Job; worship; God; pardon; mask; Europe; mayor; touch; Jewish community; wine; moustache; hell; dog; People; solitary confinement; audience; Christmas; happiness; physical pain; time; Poland; flowers; David; motorbike; coffin; shortest pride parade; fire; blessing; smile; patron; frightened; movement; fish |
| location_name | Paekākāriki |
| location | Paekākāriki |
| broader_location | Kapiti Coast District |
| location_lat | -40.984489599953086 |
| location_long | 174.9558693272572 |
| precise_locality | false |