Rev. Clay Nelson

In this interview recorded on January 29, 2013, Clay Nelson discusses their role with St Matthew-in-the-City in Auckland, New Zealand, particularly in relation to the church's provocative billboards, which have attracted both national and international attention. The interview was conducted by Gareth Watkins at St Matthew-in-the-City, with the discussion focusing on events primarily from the 2010s.

Originally from the United States, Clay Nelson immigrated to New Zealand after becoming disillusioned with the political situation post the re-election of George Bush. Desiring one more adventure in life, Nelson celebrated New Zealand's commitment to human rights, a primary factor in their decision to move. With a background in higher education and ordained as a priest for over 30 years, Nelson had become frustrated with conservative church policies in the US, leading them to work with the Unitarians before moving to New Zealand.

Upon arrival in Auckland, Nelson was not expecting to work in the church again, considering alternative employment such as driving a taxi. However, a chance encounter with St Matthew-in-the-City led them to apply for a position in communications and marketing, a role that matched Nelson's background in web development. Eventually, Nelson returned to priestly duties and became integral to St Matthew-in-the-City's public engagement.

St Matthew-in-the-City has a long history of social justice and inclusivity beyond LGBT+ interests, including engagement with Maori land rights, anti-war movements, and the AIDS community. This progressiveness extended to their involvement with the Auckland Community Church, supporting gay and lesbian rights during times when it was still illegal to be openly gay in New Zealand. Furthermore, Nelson licensed themselves as a celebrant for civil unions and prepared to adapt to the potential passing of the Marriage Equality Act.

The church's billboards have been a key method of stirring public theological discourse and challenging stereotypes associated with the church—ranging from addressing church policies to displaying messages of inclusivity and support for the LGBT+ community. The varying reactions to the billboards revealed societal tensions around these topics, including some abrasive responses. Despite the negative feedback and occasional threats, the church's positioning provided a beacon of hope for those marginalized by traditional religious views.

The interview delves into the creative process behind the billboards, the collaboration with advertising companies, and the aim to provoke thought rather than necessarily increase church attendance. The discussion also explores how St Matthew-in-the-City's financial independence allows them to voice opinions without dependence on congregational funds or a need to cater to any single theological viewpoint.

Nelson highlights that St Matthew-in-the-City often provides a voice for other members of the Anglican Church who agree with their progressive stance but are unable to express it themselves due to their own congregations' diverse views. They also touch on the varied demographics of the church community, including the impact of their public messages on both the older and younger generations grappling with their sexual orientation and religious beliefs.

Lastly, Clay Nelson reflects on the development of their faith journey, the evolution of their beliefs, and the courage found in being honest in their position of leadership, acknowledging that while the church may be slow to adapt to societal changes, pockets of progress provide hope and exemplify true gospel values.

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