In this podcast Ann-Marie talks about her journey from being a long time member of the Salvation Army and gathering signatures for the anti law-reform petition in 1985 to coming out and being in a lesbian relationship in 1986.
Summary
This summary examines an audio recording of an interview with Ann-Marie Stapp, conducted by Jac Lynch on January 28, 2016, in Wellington, New Zealand. The interview explores Stapp's experiences during the 1980s, focusing on their time as a member of the Salvation Army and the complexities of their personal journey amidst the homosexual law reform movement.
In the 1980s, Stapp was deeply involved with the Salvation Army, having embraced the church's activities from a young age. Their connection to the organization was longstanding, tracing back to family ties originating in the 1880s. Stapp emphasized the importance of the Salvation Army in shaping their values and engaging with social justice issues. The Army was seen as a beacon for the poor and those in need, providing not only spiritual guidance but also tangible support during crises.
A turning point in Stapp's life occurred following a motorbike accident. This incident led them to a Women's Refuge, where they met a worker who would later become their partner. At this time, Stapp was unwittingly swept into the contentious milieu surrounding the homosexual law reform in New Zealand. The Salvation Army opposed the reform and circulated a petition, which Stapp initially supported without fully grasping its implications. Their stance began to shift after confronting opposition at their workplace and realizing the deeper social and ethical ramifications of the petition.
As Stapp engaged with education and feminist theories, their perspective on social justice, sexuality, and church policy evolved. They encountered the broader LGBTQ+ community, including at gatherings and conferences, which expanded their understanding of identity politics and class issues. These experiences were pivotal in reshaping Stapp's worldview and pushing them towards activism, challenging their previously held beliefs and the Salvation Army's stance on LGBTQ+ issues.
The recording reveals the internal struggles within the Salvation Army, capturing the personal and institutional conflicts regarding the law reform. Stapp highlights the nuanced positions held by various individuals within the organization, which often diverged from the official line. They discuss the Army's conservative approach to morality and social issues, contrasting it with their own shift towards a more inclusive and progressive interpretation of Christianity.
Stapp's narrative includes reflections on a partnership influenced by professional abuse and the subsequent isolation they felt. The Salvation Army's failure to provide appropriate support during this time further pushed Stapp away from the institution. However, they also note a broader move towards dialogue and reconciliation within religious communities and the Salvation Army's attempts to address past wrongs.
In summary, the audio recording documents Stapp's journey from an active Salvation Army member to an advocate for LGBTQ+ rights. The conversation details the sociopolitical environment of 1980s New Zealand, touching upon the drive for homosexual law reform and the complex interactions between personal beliefs, institutional policy, and societal change. Stapp's experience is a microcosm of broader shifts in attitudes and advocacy for LGBTQ+ issues within religious circles and society at large.
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