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And and so to me, uh, really, after the rainy days that we've had, um Oh, sorry. Another of it is that is, um, an [00:13:30] of and is also so, um, to me, it makes, um, sort of a special connection today with um, after a rainy day yesterday having, um um yeah. So today is a, um a great day for us. Um, we we've got, um, Ariana here, one of the curators [00:14:00] of, um, on the dusk. He made it. So, um, an amazing exhibition upstairs. Um, and I'll leave all of the about that for for that part. Um, and we've also got, um, the legend, um, with Evans here and some of our our from the staff here as well. Um, just to share and And what is here? Because it is all of ours. And I think that's a message that I'm trying to get across to everyone. That this It's funny. It seems like this big imposing thing, but it is for everyone to come in and see. [00:14:30] And there's plenty here for our community as well. So I'm just the day to sort of gather together and and share and and particularly about the of the mana of So Yeah, so is my name. Um and so a quick word about if you don't know about, uh, Community Group based here in Wellington. Many of us at home are here today, and there are many of us who [00:15:00] are also not able to be present. But the purpose of our group is to essentially act as a space for in Wellington to come together, um, to build community. So building community not just amongst ourselves, but amongst the wider community to tell our stories. So all of us have got a place to tell our stories and a place to leave a legacy meaning, uh, a pathway for others to follow. So that's essentially [00:15:30] the the the aim of our our group here. I forgot to say a special mention to lay gas. Thank you also for your participation. I'm a member of Lays, too. So I forget about those things sometimes. Um and that's also great to see people from the wider community here. So So let me know your Facebook name. That's all I can do. But she's lovely, but she's actually from [00:16:00] Alton out out in the park there. And then there's Richard over here from Rainbow Wellington. Who is here. So, uh, it's great to see everybody. Today is an opportunity, um, for to come along and bring the community to the National Library to the Alexandra Turnbull Library. Um, there's that opportunity to see what's here. There's an opportunity for us to have a talk about and give some [00:16:30] feedback about, uh, some of the exhibitions, but also to generate conversation, uh, which will have an opportunity after, um, going around the exhibitions. Um, today, just with the and the the size of the exhibition space, Um, we just feel it's best to have two groups, and we do a swapping over kind of thing. So half of us will go with Ariana and go through, um, the exhibition on the and the other half will go into the little burn [00:17:00] room with some of our curators here. Um, and then we've, um, brought up some of the items there for us to have a look at and have a, um and then, after a certain amount of time, about half an hour, then we'll swap over, and so everyone will get to see everything, and then we'll come back downstairs for one on a Yeah. Any cool? Um, so we'll just split up into roughly groups of 10. Just just 22. [00:17:30] So, um, just a Well, you can make up your little but, um Ariana, stand and then and then start to the stairwell and 10 people follow Ariana and the rest of us will just gather. Here I wait, Wait, [00:18:00] YTY that. Have a seat. Have a seat if you want. Just a quick explanation about the this here. You can see from the English version that, uh, talking about the stars that gather at this time of the month. Uh, and these stars [00:18:30] are the of, and they, uh, are seen at the beginning of the new Maori New Year. And, um, my explanation this morning, uh, why it such an important time of the year is because from my understanding, um uh, about the of and the is that, um it's a time to to celebrate. Um, [00:19:00] it's a time of celebration. So the stars, uh, that are named here represent different things that, um, help us in our lives. So, uh, whether those things that grow in the ground or those things that are that uh um come from the air, uh, from the sea. Wait, wait. From fresh water from rainwater from the winds, [00:19:30] these are the the the the names of of some of those stars in particular. And and then there are two other stars, uh, named as well, which is the star where we remember those who have passed on and which is the star to whom we direct our wishes for the the coming year. So [00:20:00] the importance of the mother of these stars is that, um when those stars were seen, depending on how brightly or not they shone or were seen was an auger of how well things might be for those stars that they represented. So if you saw the star of Nuku so looking at the food that comes from the ground and it was shining really brightly, it was perhaps a foretell [00:20:30] that it was going to be a good year for crops. And for other things, it might not be such a good year. So that's my understanding and explanation around. Um, but it's only my explanation, and there's lots of explanations and other people will have other stories. So this is just 11 explanation, and it was just my excuse to have a with you while we were all coming back together as well. And the purpose of this session [00:21:00] is to get some feedback about our today, which is about, uh, wahine. And so you've been through some some exhibitions which have focused us on, particularly about wahine Maori. Uh, and so for this session, um, what we'd like to do is to get some feedback, Really from people, Uh, about that in one or two or no more than 10 words? No, I'm just kidding. But, [00:21:30] um, they will try and, um uh, give enough space for everyone to to provide some some reflections, Uh, about the the exhibition, what you saw or what you may not have seen. Perhaps that that might be, um, useful, Um, for consideration. Uh, and even reflecting on those people in our community, whether they're here in Wellington or further [00:22:00] a field that you think also could fit into this category of celebration of man and the way that we're going to do this is in the, um, form of passing the and, um, we're going to a bit like a session. So for people who are familiar with the session, you sort of get to say who you are, Uh uh, in one or no more than 10 words. [00:22:30] Um, but, um and then perhaps, um so that everyone gets to to meet each other through this process because it's been a bit quick so far. But perhaps we might have a bit of time to devote to each other. And don't worry, we won't forget if you haven't had a chance to speak because, um, we'll just make sure that a gets to you and this is going to be the the microphone. And so the microphone will just move around from one person [00:23:00] to the other, just moving around in the circle rather than going backwards and forwards, right? It'll just go around that way. Did I miss anything out? Just sounded like everything was happening. Um, so I've just explained what we're going to be doing, Um, in terms of reflections, considerations in the Maori, Uh, and using the arcade. Yeah, I think maybe I'll just add [00:23:30] in that, um, with the exhibition and and perhaps you pick this up and this has been said, but, um, we've been trying to really just evoke and create a space for everyone to share what it is that, um means to you the manner of or reflecting on on and your lives who are important or role models or those sorts of things. So any of those sorts of welcome here today? Yeah, you too. So I'll start with me, [00:24:00] then we can end with you. And so, um, for me, they, uh, have always been important role models for me in terms of in particular. So So I think of my mother. I think of my grandmother, and I think of them as being anchors in our, um And so I also see Maori within our community as a similar [00:24:30] thing for me anchors. They around whom? Um, friends, Uh uh, Come together. Around. That's just me. [00:25:00] Um, uh, um uh and, um um And, um I'd just like to say [00:25:30] that, um what means to me? Um, straight away, my mother comes to my mind because she was the strength in our family, and, um, she was the one that we all went to. So, um, to me, it means strength. Thank you for having me. Uh, my name is Vaughn Lloyd Jones. Uh, my iwi is Wallace clan, and I'm from Wellington. I grew up in, and, uh, it's been a really pleasure. Real pleasure to be [00:26:00] here. Um, my son's Maori and I've got friends in this group So it's just nice to get immersed. And I've learned a lot, and I think I'm definitely history from the point of people experiencing it from women and, uh, in is is fantastic. So please keep it up. Thank you for having me. Um um, [00:26:30] core McDonald. Um no, I grew up in, um, down near, um, and yeah, it was an incredible opportunity this morning. It just feels like like, my best day. And, um, yeah, I still am really just reeling from it all. I feel like [00:27:00] I I feel like it needs kind of weeks to gestate, but, um, the thing that really it just is staying with me of through everything is, um is actually, um your about the, um the fingernails and the gifting and the, um Oh, yeah, there's something there that's just working. It's magic, and I yeah, I don't know. [00:27:30] It's too early. It's too early to do it. Yeah, but and also just, um, beautiful. Just to have this celebration. And I guess in my personal life, I think of I was raised by my nana and great auntie and and a Yeah, and a pretty fierce matriarchy. And, um, yeah, So this just feels like a It's nice. Fully met energy resonate throughout all of this as well. Yeah, that feels special. Kilda. [00:28:00] Hi. My name is Renita. Owen. I'm from I was brought up in, Um, I was brought up in the Tongan family. As you all know, Um, there wasn't much in life to actually have because I was brought up by my auntie. My parents had to go to work, and my auntie's got about five or six Children. She brought up my sisters and brothers and all of us and means to me is [00:28:30] beautiful because you know, when you have those friends and those people and you know, those beautiful people that actually, like, literally got me to know who I am and literally got to make me grow up and actually know that I am a transgender. But I'm a girl that's beautiful. And, you know, I give my heart to everyone and looking at it in public, it makes me feel [00:29:00] like, you know, we can be strong. We are beautiful people today, so why put your head down and look at yourself and say to yourself that you are clear because in your heart. You're beautiful and take every single part of it as loving as enjoyment. You know, because as you see people today, they don't know who they are. They don't know what they wanna be. But if you take one step at a time and that [00:29:30] you gradually grow up, you actually know that you are beautiful people. We are from different cultures. We bring many experts that we have. So thank you, everybody. Um um [00:30:00] um, I would just like to say that, um, the power of the woman is, uh of the wahine is undeniable. And what I got from here is that you looking at this, uh, exhibition has has included Carmen and has given us girls as, um [00:30:30] transgender. Uh, so this expression has put us and put us somewhere and given us a space. And to me, that's quite that's quite, um, heartfelt. And, um, because in society, it's it's completely different. We're kind of like invisible, but to to see you put us somewhere up there is, um yeah, it was really It was really hard for [00:31:00] me and to me. Um, the the the power of the woman like I said, is undeniable. They are the bearers of life. And to me, that's not a gift that's a superpower. And so my acknowledgment to, um and it's nice to see, um, an exhibition about wahine because there's really not enough of them. And that space she gave [00:31:30] us is just touch me. So, everybody, my name is, um I'm not very good at speaking. Um, it's been amazing today. I enjoyed today. Very interesting, actually. I saw a photo of me today. I tried to make it. I was 24 but I was 38 [00:32:00] but, yeah, it's been really fabulous today. I really enjoy it. And thank you very much. Thank you. Um, um, So although I'm, you know, my experiences of Maori women have been that they're exceptionally strong people and, uh, you know, given the, um, the kind of things that they have to cope with in our society [00:32:30] that as women have to all women have to, but, um, as Maori women, they have to be even stronger. And, um, you know, I I'm I'm over awed by the the amount of the, um responsibilities they take on the number of Children they have. And, uh, they bring up and the way they have worked to revitalise, um to continue culture traditions. Um, I think women really are the bearers of in the, um [00:33:00] they they carry on the culture, you know, and that so they they have a Yeah, I greatly in all of that. And it's wonderful to see an exhibition which celebrates it. Thank you. Yeah. Hi, everyone. My name is and I come to be here from Via the South of India, Malaysia, Auckland, and now I'm present. Um, I really loved the exhibition. It was, um, so beautiful to see [00:33:30] the threads from the past to now, Um, I think that's what I really appreciated about it the most. Thank you. Hello. I'm Annabelle Fagan. I come from and I swore I saw a Riki flying past my window today. So that was good luck that I came in here and Jo enjoyed the exhibition. Yeah. Uh uh, [00:34:00] um I feel very privileged to come and see this exhibition in the company of this group, and I definitely want to come back and see it again. And I'm so interested how the the colonising our eye has created an image of, uh young Maori women that make some sort of objectified and distant and sort of not of the current [00:34:30] world And how we move through to women who are the kind of strong we know. And I've been so privileged to know some absolutely super Maori and see them represented there just absolutely great. Um, I'm Linda Martin. Um, the the exhibition, you know, starting from all those [00:35:00] early images of Maori women and trying to make them passive and objectified images. And, um, I think back to when I was in early, teen and my family moved up to the bay of plenty. And I worked on a one summer job working on a farm, selling, um, watermelon and stuff on the side of the road. And I would hear these Maori women working in the fields behind me and I never [00:35:30] saw them. And they're all speaking. And, um, uh, I was just I don't know how to explain the the feeling and and then I was in for a year. And when I was at the, um uh, I was, um, living at the nurses' Hostel. I was there at the time. And again, there are all these Maori women working there and they were so staunch and a bit [00:36:00] scary. Um, but they were so strong and so thinking about that and thinking about the exhibition and how my ancestors as part of the colonial colonialist, Um, like I said, try to make these amazing women passive objects. And I think of now and I think of all these just [00:36:30] wonderful, amazing, strong Maori women who are so so fucking strong with all the shit that's still going on in our country. And, um, you know, the the members of I want to acknowledge you for your Oh, sorry for your strength and your beauty and living your lives. And I want to give a shout out to Cassie, [00:37:00] who's just this amazing, amazing, wonderful young Maori woman. And I want to give a shout out to and all the shit she's getting in the media. And she's another strong Maori woman who did what she needed to do to look after her Children. And so I just want to give this as a working class New Zealander. I want to [00:37:30] just, um, pay my respect to these Maori women who survive and persist with others. Negativity in the in our world and they just continue to bloom and and be strong and stay staunch. And I think that's more than 10 words. Um uh, [00:38:00] asks to Ada Um, yeah, I it's it's a great privilege to be here with the today. Um, and, uh, one of my favourite moments was, uh, being with the material from Gans and all of the images of Carmen and people talking about, um, who [00:38:30] they knew and their memories. And for me, that was, um that's kind of the importance of archives and making them, like you said, um, accessible to people because they're, um they're the people who allow us to be who we are. So yeah, um, I think that exhibition is is very, very moving and powerful and really important, and I'll come back for a longer visit. [00:39:00] Um, I've spent so much time in this building in the last 18 years in and out researching, and it always feels like home walking back in that door. But today really felt like a connection to our histories women of New Zealand women and [00:39:30] is Linda and other women here, said the the example of strength. The example of persistence and resistance that Mana Wahine shows us. And I think of my grannies. And like Linda, I was working class Pakeha my Nana worked in and Hastings and in her later years, and we share some of those stories rural women in New Zealand, we share some of [00:40:00] the same experiences, but we don't talk about it as an identifying experience very often. And I know in my genealogy my the woman in my family didn't do that. I forgot to say who I am. So my name's Kerry tank, and I'm not usually around here. I'm usually up in the Waikato now. So a couple of people were stunned to see me here today because they didn't get much of a heads up. But, yeah, thank you for for putting this exhibition up, because it really is heartwarming [00:40:30] to see the narratives of all of us included. And to see that, um, to see the narratives that bring in sisters that bring in all of the the diverse and strong people that that have been included in the history of women in New Zealand. So I'll stop now. Uh, everybody. My name is Sarah. [00:41:00] Um, yeah, like everybody else. I found the, um, exhibition really moving and really powerful. And I just hope that anybody that comes through the front door and has a look at it starts to acknowledge, um, more and encourage the voice of our because I think that's the way forward for a through the voices of our those who have gone before us and those who are around us today. Uh um, my [00:41:30] name is Tommy Hamilton. I've just moved to Wellington from Auckland, and I just want to acknowledge that student teacher relationship here. You walked in earlier, and I was like, I know that person. So I really want to apologise for not connecting you because we're not in Auckland. So that's my excuse. Um, but lots of people around the room I've met and briefly seen, I'm also, um, engaged with the through my partner, Jack, who performs with you guys. But I work in the community, so I wear many different [00:42:00] hats. Um, but this morning I just walked in and trying to get Jack here on time. It's like, Oh, what are we doing? Where are we going? What's happening? Um, there's a fun thing. OK, I'll come. Um, and then I kind of turned up. And as we were going upstairs, I was going to get coffee to wake up, and I was going to miss out on all this amazing stuff. So, um, which the first room we went into was the room with the, uh with all the books and things. And, um and [00:42:30] I could feel all this weaving, which is, you know, the to me symbolic of, um, not of of everything about femininity is weaving. And then I started to sense and hear similar to Sean stories of people saying, Oh, you know, the, um the the connection to directly to this group of people that was in those pictures and images. And in the words and the narratives that were being echoed [00:43:00] physically in the room and in the exhibition as well. Um, so that to me is, uh, is is also heartening. And, uh, that brings visibility to our people, our peoples, in our different communities, in the rainbow, um, realm. And I guess I just want to also say, as a transgender person also, um, my connection to what? To to femininity has got [00:43:30] sort of cells and DNA in it, and recently my mother passed and I had a weird kind of experience inwardly around the notion of feminine qualities around the ideas of, um, matriarchy and the ideas of how things pass down and how you know, there's all sorts of ways we present to the outside world. But there's lots of different ways we connect to, um oh, our our ideas of being female [00:44:00] woman wahine and all those cultural contexts. So sometimes, um, it's made me curious about the physicality of some of the faces and the peoples and how we how those women have learned to be women. It makes me think about how we learn these ways of, of, of, um, how those are intergenerational stories and how those stories come from many generations of our our female origin. So, um, I guess sort of, that's where my spiritual [00:44:30] head is going. So, um, it was really informative, and it was wonderful to be with you to on this journey and the other people who are with us today. So for me, um, having just recently lost my mother was really quite moving, so I just like to thank everyone for coming along on the journey with me. Even though you didn't realise you were doing that, you did a good job. Thank you. Yeah. Fix. Uh um, my name is James. I'm from Wellington. Grew up in the hills [00:45:00] over the West over that way. Um, it's always a privilege to be with an associated the people that associates and brings together, um, like Chanel, the the the seeing, Um, Carmen in that collection was fantastic. And and also to to to see to as well, just for I used to be a big fan of hers, So it was awesome to see her photo. But, um, the exhibition [00:45:30] both both parts of the exhibition is something very, very strong special. And I hope, um, a lot of people get to see it, because whether you want to or not, you're gonna be affected by it. I think it's a strong show. Um, yeah. Woman power. Go for it. Thanks. Hi, everyone. I'm Natalie Marshall. I'm the curator of photographs here at the Turnbull Library. Um, a big part of what [00:46:00] I do every day is caring for the collections that we have here and building them and the hope that they will reflect all New Zealanders. Um, but one of the most pleasurable parts of the job is showing the collection to people that have real connections with us. So thank you all for coming today and being so engaged and looking through the collections and finding yourselves there or people you know, There, that's that's a real, um, rewarding part of the job for me. [00:46:30] Um, as I was saying in my, um, it's a real honour for us to hear that you're here today and also personally for me, it's lovely to be with, um, again, Um, because I'm one of your alumni. Um, but I just wanted to mention Oh, and I want to acknowledge, [00:47:00] um, the exhibition teams you've got some of the one curator is not here, but you, too, for coming up with this idea. It was a brilliant idea. And, um, great that were were to get on board with that, but also my other colleagues, for for supporting it, and I just thought I'd mention a couple of things to you. Uh, just perhaps to to bear in mind that, as I said in my this is your library, This is the the is the National Library of New Zealand. So that means that it is about all of us. [00:47:30] And exhibitions like the one you've seen are only possible because people have been generous enough to deposit their with us. So always mindful of, um, opportunities just to, you know, well, most of them getting muddled researching. Um, So if you were thinking about, like, exhibitions, like books like your own sort of your own family history, you need to always remember that us and other repositories are here, Um uh, for you. And there are ways of accessing it. So basically, you know, is via Linda and [00:48:00] Roger Swanson. But there are other ways that the rest of us can help with that. And then there are other collections that's through curators like us. So I'm the Maori curator here and work with Natalie and the other curators up on level two. And it's really always good for us because, you know, we're on top of There are three layers below us, and there are also stores underneath that building the rugby building across the way. Um, the collections here are enormous. The apparently we've got 13 kilometres of papers people's papers of manuscripts. So you could work here [00:48:30] for a lifetime and you never really. You only get to know little bits, and I'd heard a bit about the Carmen Collection. But it was really lovely seeing it today and seeing the way she had engaged with Turnbull and our colleague John Sullivan, who used to be the head of the photo archive. And he sits next to me and he's one of our real treasures. And she said, Dear John, you know, she she's writing and addressing John and all the annotations and and that's really special because it means I felt so comfortable with that collection because she was so keen for it to be here and for us [00:49:00] to be able to and others in the to be able to engage with it. So, um, that's and we were just talking about how that's quite unusual, Actually, you sometimes might have photos that have, uh, labels that were done for the family, but this is kind of neat. How she said, Hello, Turnbull. Hello, John. And she she's writing all this stuff on it and then, um, think about the record of our time and and what we're going through at the moment and the How would you want people here in 30 40 years to be gathering and those guys in 2017? What were [00:49:30] they? What were they like? You know, So But what will it be? You know, and we don't want it to just be the Dominion that records us and our time. And that's what's great about and the other collections is that it's our own kind of record of the time. So I want to acknowledge my mate and colleague Gareth Pride, New Zealand, which is a fantastic sort of, um, database. It's it's enormous, um, in terms of a record of what we're doing. So it's great that Gareth's here today, but do be mindful of that. You know, all of the you can see what Legans is about. All of those groups we're part of, [00:50:00] um, it's really important that the that the records of those groups, you know that can be through oral history can be through pamphlets, newsletters, all that stuff you were looking at upstairs and that's in the exhibition. Um, just be mindful of hassling whoever the secretary is and saying Hey, go ring Linda, get that stuff deposited. So, Richard, um, I had exactly the same thought [00:50:30] about, um, rooms like this. Pictures of rooms like this. I sat in the seventies and the eighties, political groups and groups of people who came together for different reasons. And the recording of those events were so important for for later, when you thought it was silly to be taking a photo or these people taking a photo, let's get on with the work. But the photo was the thing that you have in your hands later that you remember and brings the pain, the pain of that work back again and the joy of it. So, um, so I really [00:51:00] was wondering what a 30 year on from now exhibition was going to be like. Who's gonna be there? Would I be there? And, um, what would what would we be looking at? And the other thing specifically about man there is I'm I'm a teacher at Victoria University, and I'm, um, students learn, I hope from me, but I've got a particular student at the moment. I was thinking of to to Kevin from the river, and she's a biologist, and she's working on fish, but from a from A from a Maori perspective, [00:51:30] a manga mari perspective and goodness me. I mean, there are times when she's really uncertain. I'm explaining something to her, but there are times that suddenly I'm the student and she's explaining carefully to me how it all works. And, um, when I think of, she's the person that leaps into my mind at this moment. So I'm very happy to, um, be able to supervise her work. Thank you so much for sharing all of your beautiful today. And, [00:52:00] um, yeah, it's just really generous, you know, to be hearing your stories. And, um, yeah, what else can I say? Um, yeah, last night I flew down to for the green party, um, campaign launch to sing down there. And when I arrived, there was this amazing rainbow in the sky, uh, up against these dark clouds. And, um, yeah, [00:52:30] I was just really struck by the beauty of that, um of that up there. And, um, often, rainbows, you know, within that Maori society were were seen in terms of how they appeared and when they appeared, you know? And so yeah, like, um a and um, even mentioning this morning about, um yeah, those connections, um, with as well being here. So I think that was also a nice for today. [00:53:00] That, um, that we were going to go well with our, um, yeah, I I'm sad in a way that I wasn't able to be there with, um, with you in the other room as well at the same time as being in the exhibition, because, yeah, that, um, car collection in particular for me was a real pleasure to to come across, um, during our research period, Um, and yeah, just that that personal connection, Um, and her really [00:53:30] strong intention with those, um, notes that she annotated everywhere. And her, um, you know, marker pen. Um, and, yeah, at the very end, when she talks about, um, that if any of the arrived and wanted to intervene in this the collection being here that, um, you know, this was her intention that they'd be here for people to access, um, which [00:54:00] was really strong was a bit like a a will. You know, um, and John, um, was sharing some stories about, uh, going to Sydney and, um, speaking with her about um, bringing the collection here. So, um, yeah, I don't want to say anything more, but, um, just thank you. Thank you. [00:54:30] And I'm just going to capture those voices that hadn't been heard yet. Um, um no core Trevor Buick. Cool. Sylvia Oliver. [00:55:00] Cool. Bruce Levy took a fire core. Rachel Jackson. Ah, thank you very much for today. It was a, um, a great [00:55:30] privilege to come and see the exhibition. Um, I saw some old friends and photo albums and brought back a lot of memories. Um, and, um, just wanna say again, Thank you. It's been an awesome special day. And, um, the other thing was, um my Children are and we were upstairs and saw, um, a direct, um, descendant from them, which [00:56:00] was special for me and special for them. So thank you, Um, Or to, [00:56:30] um, thank you so very much to our creators today. That was so, so lovely up here at the pictures to see cars and all the all the girls that have gone, um, that have gone, um, our sisters that have gone lovely to see our sister up over [00:57:00] here. Very young version of you. I was lovely. was just saying, I am so definitely gonna come back and see those voters up over there. So thank you. [00:57:30] Um, KKKK. Um and, uh, I, um [00:58:00] for, um, putting on this beautiful exhibition, uh, for hosting us, uh, to everyone who is here, Um, I've I'm gonna go and spend more time than the dusk he made in, um, beyond the dusky made in exhibition, because I think that small size of time wasn't enough. And there's so much more to be learned and gained from that space. And I'm very appreciative for it. Um, and [00:58:30] also appreciative to yeah, very honoured to sit alongside some really incredible wahine in there and also in us young punks, Maori punks in that in that space feels feels really great. And I guess also just want to thank um, as well. I spent the last part just looking through a, um a, um, a magazine that was, um, produced by Maori lesbians for Maori lesbians [00:59:00] in the eighties. And it was both, um, both heartwarming and really sad to see that. Then they were talking about the exact same things that we talk about now. Um, and in particular, I was struck by them talking about just yeah, what it means to, um, have our sexuality identity and our cultural identity and how you keep those identities intact, which is sometimes quite difficult because [00:59:30] of colonisation and because of everything. So, um so, yeah, so I feel really stoked to have been able to read some of those words from ones that have gone before me. So for that, my name is from, um, far north. Um, but no, we, uh, come back down the lines on, um Oh, the is, um coffee. Come along. Uh [01:00:00] um, east coast. Um, um, south island. Um, um And what do you think? Um, creators. And that because, um, I did studies and that there on some of the people that I saw in the pictures and that there, you know, but I I forgot their names, but it was good. Um, you [01:00:30] know, to have, um, recap on those, um, people as well, You know, that was up there, and it was good, you know, to see, um, the photographs in that there of, um you know, Carmen and that there because it gives me a outlook, too. Of what we can pull together, you know, as a community as well. And I just [01:01:00] thought, Oh, you got to go back over the years now, you know, Was it because people have got a lot of photos and that there that they don't just give out? You know, But, um, have them in the archives or something like that There, You know, this is the place for it. National, Um, library. Yes. Um, thank you for today, you know, And, um, when we went out, we all, um, upstairs in that there to [01:01:30] the exhibitions and that there, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Thank you very much. Kill the rich. Um, um, so you've already heard, But I guess, um a KANAKAN depending on how we've met and all of that sort of stuff. Um, but, um, just, I guess, to make the point here at work, I am known [01:02:00] as a just my little way of, um, bringing out into my space every, um, every time I come to work, So Yeah. So, um, um, my job here is actually research access. So, um, you know, I heard lots of people talking about really enjoying seeing the collections and oh, don't make me have to leave. Our time is up. And, um so actually, that's my job. So if you come and ask for a and then I can help you access [01:02:30] them, all of our staff can help you access. But, um, you know, we So you also feel free to ask Ask for me, and I'll come out and help you with that, Um, and yeah, just to to follow up with what Paul was saying that, um I've become really quite mindful of of the space here. There's so many amazing collections here to see and for all of us to come in and view. Um, but it's also made me think of, like, what are all the great things that are going on and definitely with we're all over town, right? Opening all kinds of things [01:03:00] and blessing all sorts of stuff all over town. Um, but also, with my own experience with coming into the is the strength that I have, um, gained within myself and my own identity. And so just to acknowledge, um, the for for helping me along on my journey. And, um so another way to sort of, um, empower our to come generations to come is also to to just think about what can we bring in here for? Yeah, for people to see for future. So, um, yeah, um [01:03:30] um And so, everybody, thank you so much for coming. Um, when I I was quite lucky to see, um, Ariana again. Part of research access. Um, just she was coming in and having a look at the different collections, I was like, Oh, I'm seeing a lot of going on over here. What are you up to? Oh, what's going on? Like, Oh, we could maybe put together a few events around it. And so that's kind of how I like slide in here. Um, and then, yeah, we've been able to put together some really cool events. I don't know if you've seen them going on on Facebook or not, [01:04:00] but yeah, some amazing speakers coming through and got some more coming up. Um, and one of the things that we really wanted to do when we were talking about stuff is is to really show that this is a place for everyone in our communities. And so for me, it was a real no brainer. My to come in here and also just, um I had heard lots, you know, from Elizabeth and Kevin about leg ends. But I didn't really understand what it was. Um, and so being in here again, sort of another chance to learn about those things and and all of us to understand that this space is [01:04:30] is for us and and what it is that we can do for people coming forward as well. Um, so yeah, and that's sort of how this event has sort of has come together. And so thank you so much to everyone for coming along. Um, it's really Yeah, my is very full right now. I feel really great. Um, having my here and my, um who just really jumped on board. This is a great And, um, just to say that Linda Evans, the leg curator, she, um, was unable [01:05:00] to come down for the but she asked me to pass on just her token of thanks to everyone and similar to Natalie. Just that, being able to connect community with what is here. Yeah, because I spend so much time looking after this whole and and making sure that we we get great Tonga and to keep those stories alive. Um, but to be able to connect them with community and with community, who it really means something to us is such a great honour. And so she, um, really just wanted to share that with everyone as well. So [01:05:30] yeah, um, and I guess for this whole story for me has all been about so, um, coming into so Elizabeth Maori, um, invited me into and ever since then, you know, sort of learning heaps from her and from all of the and here with Ariana learning lots from her in this space and just the whole so many strong Maori women, um, so resilient and and [01:06:00] doing amazing things so great to be able to celebrate that all with with everyone here today. And thank you for the beautiful, like all the timing of it. The time to look back and to look forward and and the place of the archives and thinking about, um, our stories now and how they'll be viewed and times to come. So it's just such a beautiful, like coming together, everything. Just working really well. So thank you everybody for coming. Um, and I might just point out. You know, part of my job, our events. We've been up and we've got [01:06:30] lunchtime talks, Um, on Friday, so after one. So, um, this week we have some staff who who'll bring up some from the archives and from their talking about who have, um, inspired them on on their journeys. And then in the following week, we have, um on August the 11th, we have doctor a lot coming down from Vic. She, um, is a historian up there, and she's gonna come and won't tell you too much about it. But it is titled owning our dusky cells [01:07:00] Sex, sexuality and women's business or something like that or something about skin. Anyway, Come along. And then, um, on the 12th, we have a cool collab with club. So, um, organised that another there? Um, but yeah, we'll be down at flux, um, with the Wellington Museum. And, um, creators have come in and had a look at the exhibition and like, you were continuing to come in because you [01:07:30] you could see it multiple times, and, you know, everything needs to gestate. Um, So they're going to be giving some creative responses to the exhibition that night from five o'clock. So, yeah, have a look on Facebook or on our website. Those events are up there. And, um, I think is that you think just check out. But really, really thankful for your coming here today. And, um, can't talk about Maori without talking about my aunties. Who? Um, [01:08:00] my dad was one of 17 or 18 kids, and of them, um, five are left and four are Maori. One is, um, a male. And he has survived, I think, because he ran away to Perth, the strength of the and the so, Yeah. Oh, I might just hand over to, um, Kevin Kilda. Um [01:08:30] um um, just thinking, uh, the national library. The curators. Now that I know he called you a here, I'm thinking, how come she going on? Um, and to everyone that came along today, [01:09:00] um, to help realise this, um, and to learn, um, and to think and to reflect about what we may do going forward is is really, really has been a valuable moment. And to have members of the wider community here has also been really valuable in terms of that interaction as well. Um, and so with that this was going [01:09:30] to conclude. I will have a KA shortly after I hand it back to Paul. Who's going to going to close off our session today, even though he doesn't know it yet. Um, And also, um um, but yeah, just to give thanks. Thank you for everything that has happened today. And so I think it's probably right that we probably sing a song for that before while Paul composes himself and thinks about what he's going to do next. [01:10:00] [01:10:30] [01:11:00] [01:11:30] [01:12:00] Yeah. Uh [01:12:30] uh. [01:13:00] I have something to eat, please.
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