This page features computer generated text of the source audio. It may contain errors or omissions, so always listen back to the original media to confirm content. You can search the text using Ctrl-F, and you can also play the audio by clicking on a desired timestamp.
So my name's Sarah. Um, we're here in Cuba Street. Um, so it's, um, women's Suffrage Day. And we want to celebrate that, Um, but, um, we're here as part of the group Queer Endurance Defiance to make a statement on behalf of queer people to celebrate, um, women's suffrage day. Um, but be completely inclusive, um, of all women. So that includes trans women as well. And then also make a statement for, you know, wider [00:00:30] suffrage as well. So, you know, universal suffrage. So, what sparked this event today? Um, look, there are other groups that are doing, um, anti trans dog whistles. Um, you know, using the women's suffrage, um, event as an excuse. Um, and I think it's important for for us to make a statement that the Trans people are here as well, and and and and, you know, we're present. We want to be included in society, but we're not trying to take over anyone's spaces or anything like that. You know, we we're just [00:01:00] trying to stand up for ourselves here. So can you describe what's going to happen today? Oh, look, we're just getting a rally together. Um, we're expecting something in the order, maybe of of 10 to 50 people. Something like that. You know, Not a large gathering. It's still level two of, um of covid times. So that's the That's the way these things go. Um, look, we've got some placards here. We're gonna, um, just get together in a in a in a little sort of celebration. Um, you know, make a statement to any general public. And I'm not sure if we have a larger number of people, we might need to just sort of move, [00:01:30] you know, so that we don't have a large gathering all in one place, but that's about it, Really. So since we last saw each other, which was in, I think June, which was outside the Michael Fowler Centre. Um, quite a bit has happened in terms of the legislation through parliament. Can you describe, um, that Give me an update of what's been happening? Well, there's been a couple of bills and and quite a rush. Um, first of all, the conversion therapy bill. Um, so a fantastic idea to try to prevent, um, [00:02:00] you know, conversion therapy, uh, as as a as a form of torture, essentially being forced up on queer people. But there were obviously some moves from some groups to exclude. Um, trans people from, you know, um from being disallowed, um, or or from it being disallowed to for them to be tortured, which obviously that's that's not OK. The other piece of legislation, which is actually kind of what we were talking about back at the Michael Centre is the, um B MD RR bill, Uh, which is just the, um, the piece of legislation that makes it very slightly [00:02:30] easier for trans people to change one of their pieces of documentation. Their birth certificate. So submissions have just closed on that bill. Do you have a, um, an idea of how many people submitted? Not on that one yet. I haven't I haven't seen a statement about about how many people? Um, I would guess. Apparently, the conversion therapy was about 100,000, which is amazing. I would guess there would have been quite a lot on this, but probably not quite as many, because it is a bit more of a niche issue. Can you describe, um, since June? What? What? What? The mood has been [00:03:00] in, um, transgender communities to because there has been a lot of media attention, hasn't there? Yeah. I mean, like all groups, you know, we're not one homogenous group. We have a lot of, um, different people with different feelings and different opinions. You know, it's a It's a scary time because, you know, we're making some good little gains. Um, in terms of being, um, being a little bit more noticed, a little bit more talked about, um But, you know, it does shine a spotlight on [00:03:30] us and sometimes, um, being hidden as safer as well, So some people will be feeling unsafe. And, you know, it would be scary for them, uh, for other people. Yeah, we're excited about the, um you know, the the the new developments. Overall, I think this is going to end up going in a in a good direction, you know? But we do have to stand our place, Um, and and and, um Yeah, just just, um, make sure that we are included as well. Yeah. Hi. Um, my name is [00:04:00] Caden Hunter. I'm a non binary, trans masculine person. I go by he MC M pronouns. Um, I've been transitioning for medically on testosterone for five years. Um, today we're at Cuba Street by the bucket fountain. Um, we're doing a counter protest against, um, another march, uh, set up by a group of people claiming [00:04:30] to be, uh, suffered suffragists. That's that's the word. And, um, they had a pretty strange little pamphlet go out. Uh, talking about, um, how women's rights is being are being eroded like, 01 day men are gonna be in the women's bathrooms and all that, and, um, lesbians are being forced to sleep with men and gender. Nonconforming kids are being forced to transition, which is just [00:05:00] not true. Um, as as someone who was trans myself, it took me a really long time to, um, really even seek transition. It wasn't until I was, like, 21 that I really went out and did it because I was so scared of, like, all of the, um, the barriers in our way. So as a teenager, I just didn't do it. And now I'm stuck needing to get surgeries [00:05:30] and all that. So, yeah, when you see documents like that being circulated, what does it make you feel? Uh, it makes me feel quite sort of scared and unsafe. Like I kind of realised since the last, um, protest. We did that. Um, I feel a lot more sort of on edge around other people because of it. And it's a real shame because I have just as much right to [00:06:00] exist in public spaces as anyone else, sis or trans or otherwise. So, yeah, why was it important for you to be his? Um, I just want to show solidarity with, um, the women's rights movement and, um, trans rights as well, because, um, being Trans masculine was pretty difficult [00:06:30] for me to sort of come to terms with, um, like womanhood and all that because I didn't really I'd never fit in as a woman and a lot of people sort of take that as, Oh, that's just internalised misogyny. But it never felt like that. It was just like, Yeah, women are great and I love women. And I will stand up and fight for women's [00:07:00] rights, especially because, like, it did affect me for a very long time. And it still does to some point to some degree. And, um so, yeah, I thought I should still stand up for women's rights, even though I'm no longer a woman. My name's I'm Wellington resident and also one of the queens and I and I'm here today because I saw us on Facebook and just here for solidarity [00:07:30] for much needed cause. Why was it important for you to be here today? Um, I'm here as part of the Wellington community and also as a non human. That and onto are toxic. And we need to be together to for our light, because our community has been long marginalised and it's going to be and [00:08:00] trans women a woman, trans men, a man and suffragette for older women, not only ones have you noticed a change in kind of rainbow communities or how they are treated in Wellington over the last couple of months because there's been there's been quite a lot in the media because sort of social media to divide people into a different community. I don't get to see too much or turf lacks because I know where I'm calling and I know where the information is coming. But also I've seen a lot [00:08:30] of those prominent activists was in a queer community, the Libyan an attack, especially about Dell going forward and yeah, different transphobic la not only New Zealand, but of a word. Care everyone. Thanks for coming here to our trans rights rally at Lower Cuba Street. We are queer endurance and defiance. Well, OK, we don't have the N anymore. Queer, Queer Endurance. Defiance. Um, I'm Kate [00:09:00] Power treasurer, activist, retail worker. And once again, thank you all for coming. Can I get a trans rights? Trans rights, Trans rights? Hell, yeah. So sometime in the next wee, while a rather nasty group that I do not need to dignify with their name because I I think I've already forgotten. It will be sorry [00:09:30] about that. We'll be marching past Manna Street, and I think what we need to do is just be extremely visible and make a lot of noise and show them how happy we are to be here and how they can't do shit about it once again. Can I get a chance? Right. Thank you. Well, um, I'm Kay and I'm a member of a community [00:10:00] of allies and other people supporting the rights of transgender people to be recognised for the human beings. They are on women's suffrage day. I was surprised to see that a group of women who say they speak for all women saying that transgender women are not women and they should not have the same rights as other women. And I don't agree with that. So I'm here to support others. Um, and this is not meant to be antagonistic. But just to show that there are different views on these, um issues [00:10:30] and that, you know, on a personal level, I have a commitment to all people being treated equally and fairly, and that includes changes in the law to reflect those rights and to to make it, um, fairer for everyone. This year in particular, has seen a lot of kind of rainbow issues bubbling to the surface with a lot of legislation going through Parliament. Can you, um, just paint a picture for me of, Of how do you think rainbow communities are responding and coping well, The Rainbow communities, as you know, is very wide and diverse. [00:11:00] And so some people, especially young activists, are taking to the streets like now taking to writing submissions to Parliament, which they've never done before. Speaking to select committees of their personal experiences of being, um abused or badly treated, sometimes even within faith communities that they belong to. So those people who are able to speak up are doing so. There are other rainbow people who are in communities where if it's not safe for them to speak up and they're feeling a lot of pressure [00:11:30] and they're feeling exclusion. And when somebody who they work with or who's in their family says that they're not, um, AAA fully realised human being and they don't have rights, even if they don't know that that this person is LGBT Q I or another you know, diversity. Um label, um it still has an impact on them. So it's a very stressful time for people, both those who are excited that they might get better human rights. And for those who are afraid that if the laws don't change, what will the messages [00:12:00] be to those people who are against them? So I think you know, and of course, in terms of covid and lockdown, when people are feeling isolated for some people, causes like this are something to unite over and to give each other support for and for others. Um, who may not have that community support. They feel even more isolated. So wide spectrum. And as we know, support services in New Zealand are not resourced. So if people are feeling depressed or stressed and they're reaching out for mental health support, [00:12:30] some people are saying they're phoning outline instead because that does give support to rainbow people and people who are not part of the community. So it's that, you know, trying to support each other. I suppose, Um yeah, and there's those who don't even know about the issues because they're not even, you know, on social media. And they they don't follow political news because they're just trying to get along day by day. It seems to me that just everything seems to be so amplified at the moment, just with the the lockdowns and with so much, um, things [00:13:00] happening in Parliament in terms of rainbow issues. Well, one of the things that's been really great is our parliament now has the highest proportion of LGBT Q I, um MP S in in the western world. I mean, and the whole world Really, um so we now have got voices for us there in in parliament, but of course they have to follow through the the processes. But, yeah, they're also having to deal with a lot of other issues about whether, um, marginalised communities, um, or those who don't have the resources like Maori [00:13:30] and Pacifica, whether they're getting enough vaccinations, whether people are getting food on the table, what's happening to the homeless community. So there's a whole lot of issues that I mean, every community has got LGBTI Q people in it, whether they know it or not. And so we're all affected by that background stress of We're under a lot of pressure, right? Human rights are human rights are human rights are human rights. Human rights are human [00:14:00] rights, human rights, trans rights are human rights. We are friends and we're proud. Hells, yeah, Thank you. Hey, thanks so much for coming and gathering out here. It's so good to see to to see you, to be seen. That's that's all we're trying to do, right? We're just trying to be here to to have a little bit of space to make our statement that we need to be included [00:14:30] in the LGBTI plus community. Our goal, absolutely isn't to get into any like confrontations to push other people out of any space or anything like that. Just make sure that you do. If anyone needs to come through that, we do, just let them through. Um and that we definitely don't get into any, um, physical or or even, um, you know, problematic [00:15:00] confrontation. OK, we we we're saying our thing, and we're definitely just holding our own ground. But we're not, um, we're not trying to claim anyone else's space either or or make things difficult for anyone at all. OK, we're here to be included. We don't want to be pushed out ourselves. That's what uh, some other people are trying to do to us in in legal terms and just with some of the dog whistles that they, uh, that they use as well. There's somebody standing [00:15:30] back who's wearing a woman's group ribbon. And I've just been trying to explain to her that that women's group is actually anti trans. They're not pro women. If they were pro woman, they would be campaigning about poverty. They would be campaigning about housing. They would be campaigning about violence against all women. They wouldn't just be trying to ban puberty blockers. They wouldn't just be trying to stop people transitioning. [00:16:00] They wouldn't just be being mean, because I think that's what they're doing. They would be helping helping the bigger issues for all women and all people in New Zealand, because that's more important. But instead they're out here prosecuting one of the most persecuted groups in the country who have some of the worst social statistics because of how they get treated. So if you know somebody who's in one of those groups who's wearing one of those ribbons, tell [00:16:30] them they need to. If they want to support trans people, they need to not be part of those groups. Those groups are not pro women. They are anti trans end of Thank you, Um, then in England, um, they had put a hold on the Tavistock Clinic, issuing puberty blockers to people. Sorry. [00:17:00] Hi. Hi. Um, have everybody here heard about the UK court decision about puberty blockers? There was a court case taken by a young de transition who said hey, they shouldn't be issued to anybody because, um, they had problems with them. The court, the district court there said OK. Tavis Scott Clinic couldn't issue them without a legal consent. Got a lot of young people blocked out of getting um, access to health [00:17:30] system. The Court of Appeal on Friday said the district court went way beyond what it was supposed to, didn't know what it was talking about, and, hey, clinic, you're free to go. You should be able to issue them and do it on medical grounds. It's clinicians and doctors who should say if young people can get treatment, they need or not. And that is something that a lot of young people in, um, England, who have been denied medical services, will now be able to once again get the support they need. So [00:18:00] I think that's a really important decision, and lots of people over there are great about it. Oh, thank you. Welcome. Bye. Hey, um, this is impromptu. So it's not going to be very polished. Sorry. I just wanted to, um, to add to that that the group that's campaigning against Children's right to have puberty blockers hasn't given up the fight yet. They're trying [00:18:30] to take it to the UK Supreme Court, and what they're campaigning against is no longer just Children's right to puberty blockers. It's the entire legal precedent that gives Children that right. But it's the same legal precedent that gives Children the right to puberty blockers that gives Children the right to access contraception in the UK or abortions, or all sorts of medical procedures. So it's not just a fight for trans rights there anymore. In trying to take away puberty blockers, [00:19:00] the UK anti trend groups are now also trying to take away reproductive rights. They're trying to take away women's rights in the name of feminism. How perverse is that? Yeah, and I think that's why we're here today. We wanted to do this rally on Suffrage Day, in part because that turf group was doing it. But we also wanted to say that trans rights and women's rights are a collective struggle. We have the same enemy. We need to struggle together, or we will lose separately. [00:19:30] That's all. Thank you. So I'm, um, queer. I've been involved in the queer community in Wellington for a long time. Um, so civil unions, Um, yeah, doing lots of lots of bits and pieces. Um, and I came out. I I'm 39 now, so I feel old and this is a very, um, young crowd. And so I put put on my nice [00:20:00] work clothes and came out to be respectable. Um, but then probably got into an argument with a, um uh, one of the group who are supposedly pro woman. Um, but don't realise some of them that they're anti trans, and that's really sad. So, um yeah, got a bit worked up and she told me I should be down the front saying things. So I did go down the front and say some things to everybody. Um, because, yeah, I think a lot of people don't realise that the [00:20:30] the pro women's group isn't actually particularly pro woman. They're entirely anti Trans. And I think it's really sad. Like when I first saw, um, really long standing members of the lesbian community in particular and seeing her holding up a sign that says, Ban puberty blockers. I just want to say, you know, why were puberty blockers developed? It wasn't for trans kids. It was actually for kids going through puberty too early. And so if you're just saying ban puberty [00:21:00] blockers, you're gonna be having a detrimental impact on young Children going through puberty, too. early because of your anti trans focus. And I think that's really, really sad. They've just gone down this, um, wormhole of hate. And, um, they're not thinking about how they're impacting on people, and they don't realise that they're doing too. Uh, another generation. What? They didn't like being done to them just behind us. I think the, um the other marchers coming towards us. Can you just Can you just [00:21:30] describe, Can we just go down the front here? And you just describe for me what? What it looks like? Sure thing. So there's a very small group of, um, mainly women, mainly older, holding signs. A lot of them are wearing purple or carrying purple flags, and they've got the biggest sign says Woman equals adult human female, and I yeah, I think that's just such a narrow definition, Um, that they're imposing on other people. And I think it's sad. [00:22:00] Trans rights are human rights. Trans rights are human rights. I hope you're all having a wonderful women's suffrage celebration. Trans women are also women. [00:22:30] Yeah, trans women are women. Trans women are women. Trans rights are human rights. We're out and we're proud. And we're thick and loud. [00:23:00] I think of human rights. Trans rights are human rights. Trans rights are human rights. Human rights, trans rights are human rights, Human rights, Trans rights are human rights. Trans rights are human rights. Oh, uh, so I am a lesbian, and I'm here to support, uh, all my friends [00:23:30] who are Trans and are all women Because trans women are women. When you saw the other march come through just just before What? What did you think? I think they're either uneducated or they're scared of what they don't know. And that's why they think, um that Trans women shouldn't be included. Um, I'm here because I am a queer health, health care worker, and [00:24:00] trans rights and supporting trans people is in line with all healthcare values and all human rights values. What do you think of the other protest? I think they are here out of a place of ignorance and then out of a place of fear. I think they're scared of their rights being taken away, and they don't understand that there are a certain amount of rights Just because other people are able to do things, it doesn't restrict them whatsoever. and in fact, not a single [00:24:30] person here wants to take anything away from them. And actually, what we identify as and what we do has very, very little impact on them, if any. And I think their family members would be incredibly disappointed for them being here, as I'm sure every single one of them has queer family members. Um, so I'm here today because we need to fight for trans rights, and I think it's important to remember that Trans people aren't trying to push anyone out or [00:25:00] like, remove rights from anyone. They're just asking to be listened to and heard and included in conversations. And I think that's really important. Yeah, I'm here to show up and show support for the trans community, Um, and their absolute human right to be included within issues like feminism, um, and just included in general. Yeah, yeah, it's just as simple as Trans women are women. So we had to show up and support them and show that they're not fighting against feminism. We're all part of the same struggle, and that's [00:25:30] what we're working for today. So when the other march um, went past us just before what What was the feeling you got from them? Um Well, first of all, I was surprised by how old a lot of them were. And I think, like they're coming from a place of They've been fighting for women's rights for so long, but I think the conversation needs to be broader than just what it was in the past. And I feel like there was a lot of positivity coming from our side and quite a lot of negativity from [00:26:00] their side. So, yeah. Um, yeah, it's definitely really sad to see, um, because I feel like we're all fighting for the same thing. Like we're fighting to end the patriarchy. Um, and just seeing them just misdirecting the fight against trans people who are some of the most, you know, um, what's the word? Marginalised. Thank you. Um, people in our community, it's just it's really sad to see that they're misdirecting feminism [00:26:30] in this way. Yeah, I guess you feel kind of We were talking about it. We feel a bit sorry for them because we feel like they legitimately don't understand what they're actually pushing for, like reading their signs and things. It was quite like an incoherent sort of message. And I feel like if someone actually sat them down and they're willing to listen and explain, they would be like, Oh, I definitely support transform. And I support transform being part of the community. So it's Yeah, disappointing. Yeah, it just seemed really confused. Like it was built upon misinformation and misunderstanding things [00:27:00] and people just kind of backing up that misunderstanding for any coherent thought going on. I think we don't Trans people don't want to hurt other people. And it's not about taking away rights that have been so like fought for all of this time. Um, it's just yeah, we're wanting to be listened to and heard in conversations. Yeah. Yeah. And I think, like for, you know, women or women, the fight against [00:27:30] patriarchy and being a community of women can be really important. And to see them try and exclude women from that, um, it can be so, so hurtful because you're just kicking people out of a community that should be supportive and caring. Yeah, I'm so proud of all the young people that have come out here today despite all of this stuff, because I think when you're young and trans. That is so scary seeing this group of people who maybe they don't understand how they're hurting you. But they are hurting you. And they're making the world [00:28:00] feel like a safe space because they are trying to keep you out of the space. That should be there for you. And so, yeah, I'm really proud of everyone that has still not here today to say that that's not actually the message that we want going out. Yeah, I think there's a growing awareness in the younger communities of, like, how toxic turf behaviour is and how trans people need to be supported. And I think it is just that kind of older generation that aren't quite catching up. Uh, the event, Um, I just, [00:28:30] uh, sort of involved in a few, Uh uh. Basically, I know some of the QED organisers through the International Socialist Organisation. So, um, basically here to support support their work and, um, recognising trans rights and, um which are fundamentally, I believe human rights, you know, workers rights, they all they all intersect. And, uh, uh, you know, have the same, um, threads [00:29:00] of oppression running through them. So So uh, personally for you. Why was it important to be here? Uh, you know, I think, uh, just you gotta you gotta stick up for people. You gotta Everyone's in it together in this world. We just gotta If I see you know, people need help, I want to help them. And this is one of those times where I think I can, uh, make up some numbers and and be a part of it. Yeah. Um, so I'm Aria. And [00:29:30] like, I've been an ally for as long as I can remember, and part of part of the LGBT Q plus community myself, And it's really important to me because my brother is Trans and I don't know what I what I or he would do if he didn't have access to the health care that he needs for and and like, an affirmative and happy and healthy life. Yeah, I'm Elise, and I am also a part of the community, and I have had friends for as long as I can remember that are trans or non binary. [00:30:00] And I've always thought that, you know, I want my friends to be the happiest that they can be and as long as well as everyone else. Like, you know, it's really important that people get the care that they need to live a happy and fulfilling life. So just recently, we we we had the alternative March kind of march past us. Can you describe what it was like? How many How many people, the types of people there? Uh, yeah, there was about 20 of them. Um, they were all kind of dressed the same. Um, and they were holding signs [00:30:30] that they seem to be supportive towards a certain group that fit their ideals, But they weren't supportive of really anything else, and it just seemed a bit closed minded, and they were older, so that could be why. But there are also older people at our protest, so I don't know why they're so close minded yet when they walked past, I mean, how did it make you feel? [00:31:00] Um, made me feel weird because we're all acting quite friendly, and we're not shouting expletives or being rude to anybody, but, you know, they were pointing cameras at us as if they were expecting us to do something. And they were walking just quite. They weren't hostile, but it was just unfriendly. I mean mad. Yeah, they're taking up a public space with hateful words and presence, [00:31:30] and it's just, I don't know. It's really gross to me. So it just makes me feel mad. If you had an opportunity to speak to them 1 to 1, what what would be something you would say to them? Um, I'd probably ask them why. You know, like, I'd probably ask them how they can, how they can feel that feminism can be like exclusive because feminism isn't supposed to be about, like, just uplifting women. It's supposed to be about gender equality, right? [00:32:00] Rights are human rights. Human rights are human rights. If I had a chance to speak to them, I'd probably ask them again. Why? I mean, I guess with their signs, I would ask them why they think one group is allowed to have rights. But another [00:32:30] group isn't and where that line is drawn. Because, you know, if you're protesting for one group, why would you not want to protest for another group that is going through worse, if not much worse than ourselves? And I think it's just unfair that they aren't taking time to learn about other people that would benefit from, you know, being accepted [00:33:00] and being able to have the health care that they need and why they think that they should be protesting the streets without actually researching what's going on. I'm Leo, um, and it was important for me to be here today as a trans person and also as an ally to other trans people, Um, basically for Suffrage Day and the fact that a lot of people decided that they were going to exploit that for their own political gains that are not about suffrage at all. And they do this a lot. They basically take [00:33:30] a lot of women's rights, um, things, and they misappropriate them to basically be awful to trans people and particularly trans women. Where where do you think that comes from? What, what, why why are they doing that? Um, I guess part of me that's uncharitable wants to say that they're just here because they have nothing better to do with their lives. But I'm actually guessing that it's to do with the fact that they don't have a lot of control in their lives. [00:34:00] Um, and they feel like this is one of the ways that they can, I guess, exercise their own power and their own minds. Um, and they make up a little bit of a storybook villain, um, of Trans people who are just minding their own business, which is very sad. Honestly, Um, I don't feel for them because all of my sympathy goes to trans people. But, you know, I think that's probably something to do with why. So when you when you've seen them walk past a couple of times today? What what's the feeling that [00:34:30] you you take from that, um, annoyance and also mostly pity and but not necessarily in a particularly kind manner? I shouldn't have to fight for my rights to exist as I am, and it's just a bunch of women who decided to be jerks to other women on a day that is for women's rights. I'm annoyed. If you had a chance to talk one on one with [00:35:00] with somebody from the the other march, what would you say to them? I just wouldn't I don't have time for that. I have a life and friends and just better things to do. We're celebrating women's Suffrage Day woman Suffrage Day. Thank you for all of those that campaigned over the years over a century ago to get women's suffrage. But also we want to extend that universal suffrage would [00:35:30] include prisoners. No, let's hear it for universal suffrage that Oh, thank you for joining us in the Chinese rights are human rights. Thank you, everyone, for coming out on this fairly blustery, slightly drizzly day. You're all absolutely wonderful. Wonderful people. Our plans just to stick around till about 12. [00:36:00] 30. So just not much longer. Uh, maybe if one or two other people just want to speak just to wrap things up, Um, that would be awesome, because you've heard lots from me. Um, and then 12. 30 We'll all just go together for for our own safety as well. Just make sure that you know you don't Don't go individually anywhere that we all just kinda head away in groups. OK? Hey, everyone. So I think I think this is the, um the wrap up speech. So thank you all again for coming. [00:36:30] Even those of you who joined by accident. It's been really cool to see you all. And thanks for coming out and supporting trains rights. Let's get a final round of that, shall we? Trans rights are human rights. Trans woman or woman? Trans men are men. Non binary people are non-binary. Thank you. We're queer. Endurance. Defiance. You can find us on Facebook [00:37:00] and nothing else right now, I think. But stay tuned. I know.
This page features computer generated text of the source audio. It may contain errors or omissions, so always listen back to the original media to confirm content.
Tags