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Hello. How are you today? I'm good. How are you? I'm good. What's your name? That's good. Can you tell us a little bit about yourself? Um, not very exciting. Um, well, that's exciting. I I have three cats and a dog. We're gonna get sheep and chickens, and I want a bunny soon. I've named it Pegasus. Where do you live? On a farm. Yeah, that's pretty cool. [00:00:30] What? What else do you like? Do you have any hobbies or likes showering? That's what I do. That's generally important. Like my favourite thing. Showering is very important. Generally. Yeah. Yeah. Um, as a hobby. Um, I don't know. I text a lot on Twitter, Facebook, Twitter, the general, the general thing. [00:01:00] How about music? Do you like music? I love music. Um, I played so many instruments, but I only do guitar at the moment. And I know I'm into, like, metal alternative. Yeah, I love disturbed. Um, no, I was so that I wasn't allowed. I think they've been here, like, three times or something like that. Yeah. And they got into them like, year nine. So a while ago. [00:01:30] Yeah. So, um, you were you here for the QS A for a teaching thing here at closet space last week. No, I didn't come last week, but I usually just not. Last week something happened and some strong the para Oh, dear. I was gonna say the planets aligned or something like that, but no, no car accident, but yeah, Yeah, a bit [00:02:00] dramatic. Are you OK? Yeah, I'm fine. Um, So what is your sex? So when I say gender identity, do you know what that means? Uh, like, which I identify myself as being Yes. Yeah. No, that's good. Um, what is your sexuality? Um, I am bisexual. Bisexual? What is your culture? Identity culture? I [00:02:30] guess I'm mouldy, but we don't like we used to have a lot to do with that. And Mum used to speak it a lot, but we just don't really anymore. So I'm so sure. And what? How do you express yourself feminine masculine dyke or tomboy or anything like that? I'm kind of a tomboy. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, when did you realise that you were a boy? Uh, well, when I was, um, primary school, [00:03:00] actually, II, I thought I was a lesbian for a long time. like I had my first real crush when I was nine years old. And, yeah, I don't know. I was only into girls for ages. I wasn't until recently. I got a crush on this guy and decided I might be bisexual. Oh, wow. This is a big change. Yeah, it was a bit weird. Like, it's not like I've ever dated guys or anything, because I had I just had always decided I'm [00:03:30] not really into this, you know? Yeah. Yeah. So, um, did you ever went through, like, a big denial stage of your sexuality? Um, I went I never really denied it, but I went through a stage when I hit it. Like I told other people. No, I'm not gay, but I never, like, tried to fool myself. I don't like Yeah, [00:04:00] yeah. So it was a bit of a secret period kind of thing. Yeah, And there was time. How did you feel when you first realised it? Oh, I. I wasn't, like, too worried. I didn't freak out, but I knew it wasn't exactly normal. But was it like a light bulb moment? I think it was just over time. Really? It wasn't like a one moment when I knew I was gay. But it's like rainbows [00:04:30] and glitter buckles all across. Yeah, no, I don't know, but like, Oh, sorry. I think that's a different question. I wait, No, Go on. Go on. I was gonna say to my family, I never actually, like, came out of the closet. I guess my mum kind of just knew, you know? And then I brought this girl home, and after she left, Mum was like, [00:05:00] Are you more than friends? And I was like, Yes, like, I wasn't gonna deny I just Well, I didn't really want to have the conversation, but couldn't wasn't gonna lie. So yeah, that's kind of how that happened. And my mom told everyone so I didn't really have to say anything. Just a conversation with my mom, and she told everyone for me. Oh, thanks, Mom. Thank you. Thank you very much. Yeah. Do you want to tell them that I also have a tattoo or something like that? Yeah. [00:05:30] Yeah, personal stuff. Mum. Thank you very much. Most of my family was really cool with it. Like I know my dad was a little bit weird about it. which I don't really mind and for ages like me and my dad were never close. We got close recently, but in the past, we haven't been like my stepmom was totally cool with it. She was, like, all about it. She was, like, raving on about all the gay friends and all this stuff. She saw an Aussie, and she went to, like, the parades and stuff. Yeah, yeah, she was like, she was really [00:06:00] excited. She had a gay child. Finally. Now my life is complete. Yeah, but Dad and me never talked about it until maybe a year ago. Yeah, I freaked out for ages, like I didn't even talk to my grandparents because they were, like, really heavily Christian. And so I was really like, I know lots of religious people are homophobic, and so I was quite scared that they were not gonna accept me or, like, disown me [00:06:30] like I hear about other people doing so. I don't know. I didn't see them too much, So when I did, I was kind of awkward after that. When I knew they knew. But I don't know. They don't think they they call my girlfriends. My little friends and stuff. And it's like, OK, so that's new. Um, sure. Like, your friend has a little friend like, Oh, she's great. She's She's She's great. Yeah. So, yeah, we don't like, [00:07:00] actually ever say that anything like that, but yeah, he's like, Hi, this is my little friend. Yeah. This is my new little friend. Yeah, it's funny. She's older than me. Yeah, she She seems taller than me as well, So I can I still call her my little friend? Yeah. Weird to call her my big friend. Oh, dear. We'll never have this conversation again. [00:07:30] Anyhow, um, and what was it like coming out to your friends? And are you out to your friends? I am, Yes. Uh, well, I've been to three different high schools, so there was very different chances to do that the first time I came out with one of my girlfriends, so that was OK. We just like and that was at a Catholic school. So we just kind of joked about [00:08:00] it a lot and brushed everyone off, and it was like we were together. So it didn't matter. In my second school, I got bullied for it. A lot. And so there were certain people I would deny it to like people that I knew were gonna judge me. If they asked me questions, I would deny it or whatever. I don't really think of it as lying. I was just avoiding being bullied by these people by being like, no, So that me alone and then other people, I would tell the truth. And, like all my friends knew, and they were all cool [00:08:30] with it. Oh, there was one guy at that. Wasn't so cool with it. He was being a real dick to me and these other people, and I punched him in the face. Hurt me or him. That didn't hurt me. He cried later on, he was he was talking to someone, and he was like, Well, I'm not gonna tell her, because what am I gonna say? Lisbon punched me in the face. Oh, my God. She's very botch as well. [00:09:00] Know we're OK now. After that punch in the face. Yeah, he I think he got over himself. So, um, do you have a bit of a support system? What do you mean? Like you have people supporting you about your sexuality. Yeah, there's not really anyone at the moment who has a problem with it. Like, and also, you got closet space as well. Yeah, it's been really cool coming in closet space. Like I didn't even knew it existed until recently. Or, um, I think it was at the beginning [00:09:30] of this year that someone invited me to go with them, and I did. And I've been coming since, and it's really cool. And I've met cool people, and yeah, it's funky. Yeah. You know, I still I still think this bar just reminds me of what a gay bar would look like. Um, pre law reform. Wondering what's up there. That that's the backstage. But anyhow, um, So you've been in relationships [00:10:00] before? Yeah, Quite a few. Quite a few. Yeah. Fling or relationships or both, Uh, probably a little bit of both. Shortest. Being, like, two weeks and longest being a year and a half. So a bit? A bit a bit long. Yeah. Some of them. Yeah. You're practically married. No, not yet, but yeah. Can you tell us about something? Um, [00:10:30] yeah. I had a relationship with this girl at one of my schools and she She was not very well liked, but it was kind of her attitude of she doesn't care what anyone thinks and because she was very openly gay and people gave her shit a lot, and she would just throw it right back at them, so lots of people didn't like it. But I know I liked her and and I hung out with her a lot, and people were really mean to me because of it. But [00:11:00] that's OK. She ended up getting kicked out of the school. But anyway, yeah, and I had a relationship which is kind of recently ended that was went for for a year and a half. Nice. That was cool. She lived in Hastings, so it was long distance each other. Well, because she was actually 18. She was at the time when we first started going out, and I wasn't yet. [00:11:30] So yeah, at the time, and so she wasn't in school, but I still was. And so I kind of had, like, a reason to stay where I was. I couldn't go see her all the time, whereas she could. So she came and saw me at least once a month usually for a different anniversaries. Yeah. Oh, that's cute. Yeah, like on the 27th, every month, she'd be down here to the same way. She's quite cute. [00:12:00] My family didn't really like her, but they they allowed it, obviously, because she made me happy. And they were really nice like that. So she'd stay with us and, Well, yeah, sometimes she'd have to stay with my mum's friend when Mum decided. Otherwise she could stay. I don't know what that was about the moment. No, probably that was my most serious relationship. She [00:12:30] was really sweet. Like she did things like stuff that no one had ever done. Like a more adult relationship. Yeah. It was a proper, loving relationship. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So how do you meet other people in the gay community or the G BT IQ community and like, online? Yeah, Well, [00:13:00] yeah, I guess so. And settle this through friends? Yeah, through friends a lot. Especially if you have, like, gay friends. They have other gay friends, and yeah, So, um, what is your definition of virginity? Um, Well, like, there's a lot of confusion about that. Like when some people think it's when there's like [00:13:30] the the Hyman or something breaks, but I don't know, because that can be broken by lots of things. So I don't think that's that Or what's your personal opinion? Yeah, I'm not really sure. I think it's just when you decide to have sex with someone, that's when you lose it. Like I don't think if you're raped, you've lost your virginity. I think it's a choice. Yeah. Have you ever [00:14:00] gotten abuse or abuse have been have received in any abusive behaviour because of your sexuality? Um, I kind of obvious if you pump someone in the face Oh, yeah, yeah, that was me. But, uh, I don't know. There's lots of keyboard warriors who have a lot to say about it like online. I never heard that term before. Oh, yeah, the the computers [00:14:30] thinking they're real tough. But if you met them in real life I, I just can't, like, imagine, like a Viking, someone in a Viking costume and see what they think about this. And there was this girl who was homophobic and she was really dumb. Actually, we Oh, I can't remember. We said something and she [00:15:00] said something back that made no sense at all. And she tipped her fizzy drink over my friend's head because she thought she was a lesbian. She wasn't. She just hung out with me. And, um, yeah, there was, like, five of them there, and they were, like, in their little gang, and they were pushing us around and stuff. I don't know. We we told on them. And you've never seen them since. Haven't, actually. Yeah, Well, thank you for the interview. Oh, that's OK.
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