This page features computer generated text of the source audio. It may contain errors or omissions, so always listen back to the original media to confirm content. You can search the text using Ctrl-F, and you can also play the audio by clicking on a desired timestamp.
Hello. How are you today? Hello. How are you today? I'm asking you now. I'm asking you now. I'm good. That's good. Who are you? James. Ok, James, can you tell us a little bit about yourself? I dropped out of school at 16. Um, I have a puppy. Yes. You have a puppy name? A. And you lived in Napier your whole life Pretty much flex me. Na. Born [00:00:30] in Napier. Yeah. So how about likes and hobbies? Uh, I like drinking as you do. I like hanging out with people that can get on a good buzz. Spending time with friends, mainly. Just getting out of the house, Just hanging, hanging with people that are like can have a good time. It doesn't have to be [00:01:00] drinking just, you know, talk to people. I like meeting new people. It's pretty cool. And you don't have a cell phone. Yeah. So when they meet me, they're like, how do I contact you? I'm like, No, you're just gonna find me. Anyway, um, what is your sex? Um, gay? No, that's your six year old male. You know, I like a girl. Um, what is your gender identity? What gender do you identify with males? [00:01:30] And obviously, sexuality is gay. Which culture do you identify with? Like my background? Like Modi, Modi and yeah, everyone, everyone. And how do you express yourself in a masculine or feminine? Sort of like half and half? Yeah, When I'm around, guys, I sort of tend to be a bit more gay and [00:02:00] I I just don't even care, you know, like another chick. And then you hang around other gays and like, Hi. Yeah, yeah, as you do. So, um So when did you first realise that you were attracted to males? About 12. 12. What happened? I was during our end of year camp. I kissed my best friend. So I and then Yeah, sort [00:02:30] of got out of the whole school, so it's pretty bad, but I was all right in the end. Yeah, just ended up moving to another school started over again. And then it happened again. Oh, no. II. I came out when I came out there fully and then ended up dropping out the next year. It was pretty. I was alright. It was pretty like I could handle the stuff. It was just annoying hearing people what they were saying. I was sort of like, get over yourself. [00:03:00] So you never were having a denial period where you were like, you didn't accept your sexuality or anything. Like I know how I feel about chicks. Like they're, like, mates or sisters or something. Like I can hang out with them. Yeah, I do like a couple of them, but never for what they look like. More their personalities. Like like a really, really good friend. I used to think, Oh, yeah, I want to go out with you. I like you. But then the way I feel about guys, it's totally different, [00:03:30] like, you know? Yeah. Yeah, actually, yeah, yeah. I'm attracted to their figure and what they look like and how they talk and stuff like that. Maybe less like that, But yeah. So you came out at 16. To who do you came out to first? One of my Really? I was sort of new friends. I sort of wanted to see how I should take it. And then I came out to my best friend, my two best friends at the time, and then to my mom [00:04:00] and then to a couple of other friends and then pretty much the whole school found out. But it was all good by then. What was the What was the general reaction to it, though? Because most of my friends are chicks like it used to be chicks. Um, they were pretty like, Oh, my gosh, This is so cool. I knew it. I knew it. And I was like, Oh, my God, you can take me shopping. Calm down, calm down. We can wear makeup together. They think it's like that. They think I'm like that. But like, man, I'll go shopping and they're like, What do I What [00:04:30] do you think of this? And I'm like, Put it on. I can't tell what it looks like when you're just holding it in front of me. It's like a bad session, a fucking session and fashion taste really bad. I just wear what other people wear. That's how I figure it or wear whatever in my closet. Yeah, yeah, I do follow trends. The trendy look. Are you doing the retail? He was like, What do you want to do with this? And I was like, No, don't chop it off. It's taken a while to grow this. [00:05:00] Oh, no, you're a little, but it feels like pretty disgusting. Why did you keep it? Like heaps of split ends? I don't know, Like, and he made it look really retarded a lot. But he's, like, made it square. And then that I was like, I told him to do it like that. He don't listen, but it's all right. He did a pretty good job anyway, Um, So you were quite You had a support system, Really? For people accepting your [00:05:30] Yeah. Yeah. I had people to talk to and stuff, like, you know, when people would say things. I just ignore them. None of my friends had anything bad to say, but yeah, I only told my mum out of my family. And then, um, my sister found out not too long after, and yeah, it was pretty, like, kept it pretty tight for a while and then just got out. But the only people I didn't want to know My dad and my nan and my brother and they, like no one that knew knew them. So it was pretty like I felt I didn't really care about who knew because I don't really care about the opinions, [00:06:00] but just my dad, my nan and my brother. They still don't know. They don't know my dad. He got told by his best friend because his best friend went out with my best friend's sister. They like husband and wife, and that's my dad's friend since high school. So I was pretty trippy like when I moved in with my mate and I found out that her sister's husband was my dad's school mate and they still hang out and stuff. I was like, Trippy. But yeah, he ended up telling my dad, but my dad sort of slightly said, like he's all right with it [00:06:30] pretty much. He just said, He's all right with it As long as I keep it to myself and don't you know, have guys walking through the house naked and shit like, you know? Oh, yeah, he's all right. And that's what the street world thinks about us exactly. But my brother, I think he knows it. But apparently he's denying it because, um, it's quite funny because you never denied your sexuality. But your brother is denying your sexuality. Yeah, like he just doesn't believe it, because When I'm around him, I act like a guy. Anything else he'd be like, [00:07:00] What the fuck are you on about? So it's pretty. Yeah. I think he just doesn't realise what I'm really like. Put it forward. So do you know? Are you ever gonna tell him? No. They already know. I don't really need to tell them. Like, Like, maybe if I get a partner that I feel like I should introduce to my family Like a real good partner, you know that I feel like I'm going to be with for a while. Like I have a partner at the moment. And he's been introduced to my mom, but that's about it and my sister. But I haven't [00:07:30] taken a Yeah, I don't want my dad to find out, though. She's like a Christian like devil worshipping and shit. She's like, you know, even though it doesn't really it in you, I know she'd accept it, but I just don't want to give her the opportunity to, like, you know, I just want when she finds out, she finds out. I don't think my dad would ever tell her. Just in case he thinks that she might get a heart attack. [00:08:00] I had a heart attack, too. So not really. Just Christmas Day. Last year had to be on Christmas Day. It's her favourite day of the year, and she has a heart attack. Maybe too much excitement. Oh, my God. Now she doesn't get a new present. She just loves buying like Christmassy stuff like she sets up a whole lounge like a Christmas town village. She has, like, the Froy foamy stuff for the snow. And like all these little people and the houses have lights inside, so it makes it look like the lights [00:08:30] are on and street lights. It's like crazy. She's how it gets into it. Has she actually started putting it up yet? No, She puts it up about the end of November or starts to because it takes about a whole month to bloody. She puts stickers on the door and then take a whole month to take it down. Yeah, she, like usually leaves the stickers on just because she can't be bothered scraping them off and having to scrub their sticky stuff off. She's like we still got one Christmas that got on our toilet from last Christmas like they just no one decided to yank off. [00:09:00] One of them just fell off. That was on the toilet seat that just fell off. And I just remember seeing it on the ground somewhere. And I was, like, checked it out. It was like, That's been on the toilet for about what, 67 months? I was like, man. So you're currently in a relationship? Yeah. What's that like for you? Hard. Why is that? Uh, so much to do. So many places to be so many people to please, [00:09:30] because I have my puppy. And then how many relationships are you in? No, I just mean like, you know, I've got to be home for my mom and my puppy and I got to be at work. And then I got to be with my boyfriend, and it's like, works pretty much half the day, every single day of the week that I'm there more than half the day. Most of the time, I'm sleeping the other half, and then on top of that, I've got to be like in two different places at two different times, and he's moaning, and we currently had a fight about my ex best friend. Um, she [00:10:00] stole off me. Um, he didn't like her, but because she sort of took me in when I needed a place to go. Um, I let her live with me for a while, and I was, like, pretty much paying for our food, paying for, like, petrol to get us around, taking her to her interviews at once so she could get on the benefit. I mean, I was paying for it for about six weeks until her benefit got accepted and she got back paid, and then the first thing she wanted to spend the money on was pretty much just drugs. I was like, Oh, fuck, yeah. And we had a big argument about that. And then I let it go and then [00:10:30] had another argument. Let it go. Just keep letting things go. And then Junior and my boyfriend, he got over it and just said, you know, I don't want to hear anywhere near me. And then we were just like I had to be there for her because she was staying at my nan's house. You know, I couldn't just leave it there by herself. So pretty much as soon as I finished, we got got out there and she'd want to drink. So we drink, You know, I want to have a drink after work. And he was just, like, felt like he was being left out sort of thing, which is completely understandable. I just needed to spend more time with him. Yeah, so we're all right, I suppose, [00:11:00] than as relationships do. So, um, how do you meet other people in the gay community? No, I don't Really. They meet you like Oh, no, like on Facebook, mainly. But I don't really talk to any of them because I don't really know them. I only talk to people. I know I'm not good at bringing up conversations. So, um, what is your definition of virginity? Does that mean [00:11:30] in my version, What does that mean? What is your definition like, What's your personal opinion on on virginity? I gets lost at a young age. I don't know. I don't know. I don't really have a personal opinion. It's like Hm. You never thought about it before? No. Never occurred to you. No thinking about when you're thinking about [00:12:00] it. Now what do you think about it? Are you talking about being a virgin? A. Yeah, Um, when I think about it most of the time, I think I am still a virgin in one way. Because, like, you know how When chicks lose their virginity, all that stuff happens. And I haven't really done that fully. Not yet. So I still feel like Yeah, yeah, I know, but I still haven't had sex fully, like, so I still feel like I am, you know, but don't know what I'm doing. Sort of thing [00:12:30] Sort of scares me a bit. Sex. It's just like, you know, But on the weary side, I don't really want to get into it with anyone that I don't really. You know, I just don't want to hurt anyone's feelings and stuff. And that's why I think the main thing with my boyfriend is I don't want to hurt his feelings. Yeah, that's something waiting to happen. Yeah. So, um, have you ever experienced or received any abuse because of your sexuality or gender identity? [00:13:00] No, Um, in high school, you know, a couple of little things. Just like people. Yeah, verbally just abusing me. But it was like, get over it, sort of thing. You know, just walk away. No point in getting into an argument, but a couple of people like, yeah, we've got into arguments, and I've mentioned a couple of things, and I've definitely back my shit up. You know? It's like, No, it's been pretty good. Mhm. Yeah, Well, thank you for that interview. That's all right. Thank you.
This page features computer generated text of the source audio. It may contain errors or omissions, so always listen back to the original media to confirm content.
Tags