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Hello. How are you today? I'm very good. Thanks. That is good. Who are you? My name is Brad. What do you do? I work with Children and families in Marston. That's a mouthful. Are you from Austin? I was raised here, but were you born here? No. Sydney, Australia. First Australian. I was only there for two months. I'm not sure it counts blood and I do support the All Blacks. That's good. That's good. [00:00:30] We'll make that quite clear on the website. Brad and small letters, All Blacks. Even though he's from Australia. This is a very long title. Yeah. Um, so can you tell us a little bit about yourself? Um, I'm 28. I lived here when I was 18 and went to Palmerston Hated it, and I went to Auckland and loved it. Um, got into the I guess the dangerous side of the gay scene up there with the drinking and drugs and [00:01:00] everything, and eventually ended up having a bit of a breakdown and coming back here and getting back into the career that I originally trained for that I thought I would never get back into Welcome to master. Welcome to Masterton. once you leave, Once you arrive, you never leave. And when you do leave, you always come back. Kind of. Yeah. Where was I? Moving on. Moving on. Um, what your hobbies And likes my hobbies, Uh, riding horses, riding motorbikes. Um, hopefully at [00:01:30] the same time? No, not not so much at the same time. Um, the motor bikes are a bit scared of the horses. Um uh, I enjoy writing books for Children. Um, and have them published. Um, and also, I enjoy just sitting in front of a movie with a big block of chocolate and not sharing. How about the ice cream? Depends on the flavour. Like vanilla. Not so much. Anything else? Yeah. You don't like vanilla? Just [00:02:00] too boring. I mean, French vanilla, French vanilla is great because it's it's, you know, French. So it's foreign. So it's, you know, it's, um what's the word? Um distinguished. Distinguished. When you're eating it out of the tub, you know, what's the difference between French vanilla and no vanilla colour? Apart from that, like yellow? Apart from that, you know the difference. Yeah. I think the French vanilla has just been left out of the freezer. too long. I think what it is is that there's actually [00:02:30] they use egg yolks instead of egg whites. Like, you know, they remove the Yeah, that would be very French French. Use a lot of egg yolks in their cooking. I used to be a cook for a living, so Yeah. So, um what is your sex? My sex? Yes, I'm a male. Is that what you mean? Yes. There's reasons why I ask these questions. What is your gender identity? I am gay. That's your sexuality. [00:03:00] Sexuality? Yes. So what would you? Well, you I see that you're also gender identity. Male? Yes. Male is gay. How, uh, what is your culture Identity. I am Caucasian. And how do you You express yourself masculine, feminine, masculine and overtly? No, Just masculine, overly [00:03:30] masculine. Ok, um, when did you realise? Uh, probably about the age of 15, but didn't really accept it till I was 18. That's a good answer. So there was a bit of a denial period. What happened when you first realised that you were gay denial, like you just said, um, I. I kind of thought, um, that, um you know, it's just a phase You know, I've been raised [00:04:00] by a Christian mother in a church, and, you know, and, um, not interesting enough. Not the Bible actually says it's wrong, but, you know, Christian say is so, um so at first I was like, Shit. I know if you put that on the website, but, um, yeah, I can You can say whatever you like, Star Star Star. Um, Yeah, but, um yeah, and then over time, I sort of realised, you know, it's actually not who I am. It's just part of who I am. Yeah, Yeah. Have you was [00:04:30] there sort of phase where you saw, like, a kid in class or an older boy that you had slight attractions to? We didn't have older boys. I just We're not catholic. Um, yeah, definitely my best friend. In fact, growing up, he was very good looking. So, um, so did you ever admitted your attractions to your best friend? No. No. Before I could even get to the stage [00:05:00] where I'd accept it. We We've kind of grown apart. So are you friends at all at the moment when I first came back here because I know he's still around. I tried to get in contact with him, but, um, all his numbers and email and everything had changed. And he's not on Facebook, so I mean, what's with that? But, um um, you can join that that list of people that have been above, but yeah. So, no, we're not friends at the moment. So, um, when did you come out? Um, [00:05:30] yeah, I'm just trying to think, um, when I when I left here and went to Palmerston I anybody I met that asked I was just straight up. Um, and NZ dating helps with that. Um um, but, um, with my family, I didn't tell them till I was 22. Um, and yeah, um, [00:06:00] it was actually, I'll tell you the story because it's kind of funny. Um, we my parents were putting together my sister's 21st guest list, and they were like, OK, so it's Chris plus one because he had a girlfriend, David plus one, because he had a girlfriend. It's my brother's, um Monique plus one, because she had a boyfriend, Aidan plus one, because he had a girlfriend, and I and that was Brad and I was just like, Where's my plus one and then, like, do you have a plus one? And I was like, Yeah, I do, actually. And they were like, Oh, what's her name? What's [00:06:30] her name? And I was like, I really shouldn't have said anything because I I hadn't really psyched myself into doing it yet. So when I took my aside and I said, Well, his name is Adam and she was like, Oh, well, thank you for finally telling me. And I was just like you didn't know And, um and because she was so OK with that. And then I said to my sister, You know, I've got a boyfriend and the first thing she said was, Oh, my God, we can go clothes shopping together. And I went [00:07:00] No, no, no, no. You'd be better off doing that with Adam. He is the feminine one. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So, yeah. So did he end up going to the, um, tree first? No, by the time it came around, about four or five months later, Um, he was history. Yeah, I kind of woke up to what he was really like. Oh, dear. Hm. But yeah. Was it a good 21st? Yeah, it really was. [00:07:30] In fact, I was really annoyed because it was better than mine. Were you forced to go clothes shopping with your sister? I still am. And any time I'm like, Oh, I'm going to go and get some jeans and I'm thinking like I know my size. I know my style. And I'm normally just in and out, and she's like, OK, I'm coming. I'll book up the afternoon. Oh, shit. Fricking sisters, man. She would have made a good, feminine gay man. Yeah, you always get that, don't you? Yeah, Yeah, my other sister, you say [00:08:00] to her I'm going to go and get a pair of jeans. She's like, Oh, OK, I need some too. We both in and out in five minutes. So, yeah. Is she a dike? No. No, but, um no, but you're making me very happy. Quite a tom boy. Yeah, Yeah, but, um but ironically, and I don't mean this. I don't say this because she's my sister, but, um, but she's actually like she could be a model, so she's like a tomboy. [00:08:30] But, you know, all the boys go. Ah, in case they didn't record, it was a draw fun times. How many brothers and sisters do you have? I have 55 Big family. Yeah, we're a step family, so yeah. Um, so officially, I have to work this out. Officially, I have one step sibling, 24 siblings and two half siblings. But as far as I'm concerned, I have five siblings. [00:09:00] I'd hate to be at your Christmas party. It gets so freaking loud. And you think working with kids, I'd be used to noise. But, man, my my family is something else. Do you have a quirky family? I don't think you can have that many people and all their partners and their Children and not have a few quirks, especially my older brother. Oh, dear. So, um, when you were in Auckland or [00:09:30] anywhere, for that matter, did you get involved with any LGBTI Q groups? Um, just the ones that got together on a Friday night at my place and drink. I don't think you can pass that. Really? Not that the group. Um no I. I didn't Really Um no, no, they they did actually. Rainbow youth. Um, because of my history of working with Children and youth, they did actually approach me and asked me to come [00:10:00] on board. But, um, it it was a scheduling conflict with my, um my what would have been my main source of income at the time? Um, that the fact, I, um I knew quite a few of the ones that went there, and I wouldn't have felt right. Sort of, you know, being their counsellor, because that's what they wanted me to be. Um, so, yeah. Would that change now? Yeah, because I wouldn't know any of them being so much older now. Um, yeah. I wouldn't [00:10:30] probably, um, of knowing them, and I would happily I mean, I actually do meet, um, on a regular basis with a couple of young gay guys here who are struggling with the whole coming out thing. Um, and they come around for dinner and things, and we just chat. And so, yeah, I could definitely see myself doing that. So, uh, so you have a lot of support in your little circle, don't you? Uh, yeah. Yeah, I do. I've got um I've got my [00:11:00] family who are amazingly supportive, especially I. I I've done a lot of stupid things in my time and um, we all have. Yeah, I've done. I've done some stuff that almost landed me in jail, and and, um, all sorts of stuff, and but my family is still supported me ever since. And, um, I've managed to become really good friends with my very first boyfriend ever. Who? We didn't end on good terms. So we're pretty good friends now, um, and he's pretty supportive. [00:11:30] And if I look like I'm gonna be doing anything I shouldn't be doing, he just goes great. Wake the fuck up. Um, and so, um yeah. So I'm pretty lucky with the sport. Yeah. So, going on to the relationships topic. You You've had a few relationships. Define relationship? No, um, relationships I've had probably sex partners, four serious relationships [00:12:00] and a lot more sexual partners. Um, as in the gay world, we like to call them flings. Yeah, one night stands. Yeah. Um, but, um, I had Yeah, I had one here in master before I moved away. Um, that was the one I just talked about. And then I had one in Palmerston, which is Adam and I talked about. Then I had, um, two in Auckland. Um, I won't [00:12:30] mention them because they do Look on on the website. Um, they'll know who they are. Um, but, um, yeah, um, other than them, I haven't really had any proper relationships. And, um, yeah, it's and mind you're living in a little town like this Doesn't really help, but yeah, yeah, if living in a little town, everybody would know everything. Yeah. Yeah. And, um, And being the typical gays only spread the bad stuff, [00:13:00] so yeah. So, um, so how do you meet other people in the community? Um, we talking people in general or people in the LGBTI Q community? Um, I do interviews. Um, Facebook is a good one. especially since you started the group. Um, and NZ dating helps a little, um and, um, funnily enough, [00:13:30] I've met a couple of lesbians through the church. Um, and yeah, so it's just, um it's as much as I. I think social networking can be really bad. Uh, it's definitely got its good points as well. What is your definition and virginity 15 years ago. No, um, virginity is, um I, I believe, until you've gone, [00:14:00] um, full an, um, in the gay world. Um, that unless you've done that, that you're still a sexual virgin. How about in other terms of virginity? Meaning is there Is there any other terms of in your personal opinion? No, no, not my personal opinion. I probably thought so eight years ago or so, but Yeah, OK. Have you experienced any abuse or abusive behaviour because of your sexuality [00:14:30] or culture? Identity or gender identity? Um, I Yeah, I have, Um I was once raped, um, and by a so called friend. Um, but, um, other than that, I've been pretty lucky. Really? So, yeah, you haven't really gotten any abuse because, like, verbal abuse off [00:15:00] the streets or anything. Um, once I did once. And that was But that was the text directed at the person I was with. Not me, but, um, yeah, it didn't stop me punching the guy. Um oh. Did you say that? Um, yeah, he, uh I mean, this This guy, um, sort of looked at my friend and went, Oh, my God, He's such a fag. And I just went and I went, So am I. He just got beaten up by one, and he ran away, so [00:15:30] Yeah, well, thank you for the interview. You're most welcome.
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