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So move. Can you just describe what you can see around you? Sure. Uh, Waitangi Park. Actually, I think this year everyone seems to have gotten younger. The crowd seems a lot younger this year. We're just getting older. Yeah. Yeah, that that's right. One or the other. And everyone seems happy. Nice weather. So there's good turnout. What? What are some of the stores you can see? Um, well, I was the first one I went to, because there's that, um, conference next year. PS [00:00:30] A Used to be a member of them, uh, labour party greens. I can see lots of food. Saint Vincent's workshop, I think. With Glenn. So, yeah, a mixture of political community, rainbow kind of stores. So move. Why? Why do you think these kind of events are important? Um, because then you're not hiding in shadows and you're visible in the community. Very important. Yeah, I'm 100% pro being visible because [00:01:00] otherwise, you know, you're kind of, um not seen. Not represented. Kind of like the census stuff that needs to be rectified. So So what is it? What's happening with the census at the moment? So my understanding, because I've been in Aussie is that, um they did some initial testing, and the answers could be either misconstrued or I think the data was going to be hard for them to collect. And, um, James Shaw, the minister, he's, um, fixing [00:01:30] that with the person responsible for the census. I think so. We're not gonna see the results, though, until, um, the next census is my understanding. But it's I, I guess a step forward when you've got the minister saying, Well, actually, we are gonna do this totally. And I think the lady I forget her name acknowledged that, um, yeah, there was some difficulty, but she's pro getting it. She's not one of those, um, obstructive kind of people, so I think that will be sorted eventually. So [00:02:00] there's the, um, census thing going on at the moment. But also, there's the, uh, historic conviction, uh, bill going through parliament. What are some of the other things? Um, kind of in 2018 that are affecting, um, rainbow LGBTI communities that that should be looked at. Oh, well, I think the biggest thing that I have well, I felt since I got back is that las in government. So you got, you know, Grant Robert Jan Lo. Um I think the time is [00:02:30] right, you know, for us to make momentum. I think it's good. I don't have too many worries at the moment about how we're how we're progressing. You know, if marriage equality just build on the gains since then, No, I think we're in a good place. And And you were saying that you've just come back from Australia? Yeah. Um, so their marriage equality was that a few months now. So yeah. So they finally got their act together and, um, passed that legislation. So yeah, it was good to feel like a Kiwi was, you know, over [00:03:00] there. And we were ahead of the times, Those Aussies. So what was the mood like over there? Oh, like a bit indignant, like, you know, they've been pushing it, and then that plebiscite. So it was, um I think they were suspicious that they were trying to get the public, um, animosity going because of the process over there. But, um, I think they ended up just essentially voting on it. And, you know, finally doing what they were meant to do with their [00:03:30] mandate as, um MP S and yeah, finally happened because it was a long time. It was, like about 10 years, wasn't it? I think so. Yeah. It had taken ages. I don't know what it was, but, you know, finally they got got through it. Yeah. So what do you think are some of the biggest issues um, around today for for for, um, LGBTI Rainbow Communities in New Zealand? Um, I think, um, and I'm thinking of inside out at the moment, So er so [00:04:00] schools being audited better. Is that so? You know, with our coming out stage and all that, so that could be more closely monitored. We could get our rainbow desk back into existence, you know, maybe under the Department of Internal Affairs. God. What? I've got a whole freaking work. Pro programme. I should share with you. What? What? What is the rainbow desk? I've never heard that. Um, so this is what I've heard, so don't quote me. Um, except we're being recorded. [00:04:30] Um, back in the day, all legislation supposedly had to pass through this rainbow desk to check its rainbow friendliness. Yeah, and somehow that died. And now we need to resurrect it, so that will require some lobbying. But we've got a receptive audience now, I think, with with labour and greens, so and and so where would that sit? Would that be like, say, Department of Internal Affairs or something? I think that would be the logical [00:05:00] place. I think it was under that department back in the day. I think that Yeah, to me or maybe the, you know, Human Rights Commission or just anywhere, Really? As long as we have influence, you know? Yeah. It's a great idea. Yeah, that's why we need to bring it back. So, um, tell me what What does a day like today mean to you? Um, I'm just into being out there, being proud of who you are, you know, common [00:05:30] issues coming together. I like this sort of stuff. I prefer this to the scene where you get stereotyped. Yeah, that's why I prefer this kind of thing. Does that still happen? Yeah. Hell, yeah. We can't be complacent. Yeah, we can't be complacent. So if I said to you, what are the kind of stereotypes that are kind of around at the moment? What would they be um, all promiscuous. All go to clubs. All go to saunas, top and bottom polarities. That's just a few [00:06:00] that we all do drag. It's interesting how some things change and then other things don't appear to it Seems you know that that that was something going on 2030 years ago. Yeah. Yeah, like I haven't tested that theory out. I must admit for a while, but I just like to do my own thing. That's why I identify, because it includes my culture as well. You know, we get to define ourselves. Not other people put labels and categories on us. If somebody wasn't able to be here today, what kind of message [00:06:30] would you like to give to them that you should consider yourself welcome? And if any little bitchy scene queen gets clicky on you, you need to report that because what I've found is that sometimes our community can be the most judgmental you should be all embracing. And I don't tolerate that crap. So we need to weed those out in our community and put them in that person. She's like, Would you have liked to have been judged that way? Like you're not XYZ enough for our community. So we need [00:07:00] to be a bit more all embracing. So make sure you feel welcome, and if not, let me know.
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