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The wonderful Dana, Dana and myself. We were in a show that Phil wrote, and I'll tell you what. I had some tales to tell. Dana's even got better ones. How you love? Just just That's alright. I'll drop my gear occasionally. Lovely to see you. Lovely to see you. Thank you very much. OK, [00:00:30] I'll present to you. Thank you. Right. Cure everybody. Um, as you've just heard My name is Dana Demilo. I can only I I was not here for law reform. I was already in Australia. I ran away. Um, times were so tough. Um, I went to school in the forties and fifties. Um, I was beaten up because I am who I am, and I've never been any different. So of course I stuck [00:01:00] out like dogs watch names. So and I was 5 ft two in the So you can imagine, you know, um but then I I ran away in 1960 from from home because I never thought my parents would. My mother would accept me and my father had passed, not just the year before. I never thought my mother would accept me, you see, because that was the only thing that I got a hiding for, that she really gave me a hiding all the time for dressing up and being who I was. [00:01:30] And yet the rest of the family I had no brothers and sisters, my aunties and uncles and everything all had wardrobes for me, you know, with ball gowns and wedding gowns and everything. Everyone accepted it except my mom. And later in life she told me the reason why she knew nothing. We're talking fifties and and obviously I was Trans, you know, And she said, The thing is that you and I forgave her immediately. She said, You no mother wants to see her child pointed at, laughed at beaten up. [00:02:00] And I said, Well, Mom, that's exactly what happened to me And she said, Yes, I know. Um, Fran had just said about, um, people calling, calling gay men. Um, paedophiles. They called us paedophiles. A guy got out of a car and ran up to me before the Cuban Mo was in and beat me, and he was beating me, and he's saying it's dirty. So and so's like you that interfere with my young brother and all I could think of to answer was, I want to be hurt, not to court. [00:02:30] And he was so shocked at what I said that he stopped beating me up. But that's all I could think of. You know, because young boys don't don't interest people like me. You know what I mean? Um and I I was always harassed by a police sergeant and he did nothing, but And I never knew too many years later that he also used to pick on other people I knew and harass them. Every night he would pick me up and he would say, Get in the car. And I'd say, But why? [00:03:00] I've done nothing. He'd say, Get in the car now. And I said, But I've done nothing wrong. If you don't get in the car, I'll arrest you for hampering a policeman in his line of duty. And then he would make the the driver drive off at, like, 80 miles an hour. And there was no no seat belts. And he knew your little Achilles heel because he was such a nasty person, you know? And he knew I hated speed. Unless I was in control of it. It would speed all around, and then he'd drive into and make him drive into an alleyway, turn on the lights, [00:03:30] and then he'd say, and and you're in an alleyway and it's dark. And when you turn on the inside lights, the the the the windows become mirrors and he'd say, Look at you, you F! And this this and the words I'd never heard like shirt lifter and and I. I can't repeat the words he used to say to me, and then he would push my face into the into the, um, the window until I I swore or said Peg or whatever, and he gave. So then he'd take me down to Taranaki [00:04:00] police station and he would make me undress and dress because he knew it would embarrass me and the would just roll. He would make me dress and undress everyone that worked there. Then I would fall asleep and he would make it his business. When the next shift came on that he would make wake me up and do the same thing all over again. Um, he would wait for me to come out of the hotel and go into the toilet and arrest me for using the woman's toilet. I mean, there was a running joke that, um, Scully, [00:04:30] who was a well known um, judge That was very anti crims. And everything never put me in jail. And he called me into his camera once and he said, For goodness sake, Dana, he said, I can't keep finding you. You know, you're gonna have to stop going into the woman's toilet and I said, Where am I going to go? He said, Well, you can't go to the men's I said, Well, what am I supposed to do? He said, Maybe a bottle. I said in a miniskirt. And it was a bit of a joke because he he he he never, ever put me in jail [00:05:00] because he understood me, you know, Um, but I, I I'm I'm just one that was treated like that. We all come from one place. We all walk different roads, but we all end up in the same place, and we are all we are all family. And I'd like to now introduce someone that was a trail blazer, um, into the Parliament and a mayor and who came along just as I left, and she can talk more about the law reform. Thank you very much for asking [00:05:30] me. I'm very honoured. Thank you. Um, my name is Georgina Baer. And, um, yes, I have walked these halls of fame, aren't they? Um Oh. [00:06:00] Halls of power, aren't they, Trevor? Um, homosexual law reform 1986. Well, in 1984 85 I had just moved from Wellington to Auckland. So I was busy being a drag diva at Alfie's nightclub in Auckland and the bloomers show. For those of you who may have come across us at that time, if you do it ages. You. Um why [00:06:30] I mentioned this is because any activism that I became involved with regarding law reform happened in Auckland because I was working for a trio of, um, partners who owned the Alfie Night Club. Uh, and namely, um, Brett Shepherd and Tony Kavi and his partner John. Uh, they owned Alfie's nightclub, but they also had a gay publication, which was rare in New Zealand at those times and for Fran and for Bill [00:07:00] and for all of the activists that were spearheading from down here, that kind of outreach was important When Fran mentioned about getting into the, uh, provinces and places like that. If any gay people were out there and had some sort of access to, um, a gay media, it would be out magazine. There was at least one other. I can't recall its name Publication Pin Triangle. That's right. Um, that also helped. But Bret Shepherd certainly, uh, became [00:07:30] a great, um, advocate in Auckland. So fund raising awareness raising rallies, um, anything he could do through the nightclub or the other businesses that were gay friendly, um, was very helpful in trying to bring the community together because we hadn't been a together community, rainbow community. Um, and, uh, but this one cause celeb was pushing people together to act cooperatively, regardless of differences of opinion, [00:08:00] because the principle was right. We need and must have, uh, equality and human rights. And this was a stepping stone toward it. So we did that in the nightclub scene up in, uh, up in Auckland. But at the same time, I also happened to be fortunately, working with one of our great gay filmmaking and writing icons, Peter Wells. And he and his colleague uh, Stuart May were making a short film as part of a drama series that was going on [00:08:30] television. Now, Not many of our real lives were expressed in television in New Zealand in those days, beaming into the households of the nation. But in this series there were at least two short films that were going to touch on a subject matter almost foreign and unheard of in New Zealand. One of them was a short film called My First Suit, which was about a young 14 year old discovering his homosexual tendencies. [00:09:00] That was fine. The other film was a short film called Jules Daal and Jules Da was a film about a day in the life of a transvestite and a transsexual. And I had the honour of playing the co-star role of Joel, um, in that film. And, um, it had an awful lot of trouble once it was about ready to go to air for actually getting on air, because the censor of the day decided that the subject matter was contrary to the public's good [00:09:30] taste, and therefore it held up an entire series of six short dramas that were going on our featured Sunday night drama slot on TV We had three channels in those days, and, um and, um so there was a great to do about it until I think Julian Mounter, who was the head of television or something at the time, came along and managed to get it to go on air. Why was it contrary to the public's good taste? Because the main characters in the short [00:10:00] film was a transvestite and a transsexual, and not one bedroom scene with sex involved happened in this film or anything. I mean, you would look back at that and think that that is ridiculous and just idiot these days. Um, in that film we managed to ad lib a scene that stands there, enshrined in celluloid to this very day and [00:10:30] which, uh, uh, the two main characters ambushed the Salvation Army, who were marching down Queen Street to go and have their prayer rally in Victoria Street on a Sunday night. And, um, me and uh, my co-star dashed out in front of this is a director's instructions totally offhand and and and lib rushed out in front of them and mockingly marched down Queen Street in front of the Salvation Army with [00:11:00] all their you know, tram, You know, tambourines going and the hats and the trombones and everything like that. The sergeant of the Salvation Army was very displeased. And we had words with Peter Wells, the director, um, about this and, uh, said they were going to be suing them. And you can't put this on TV and we'll have you, you know, we've got our eye on you. And then Peter asked us again at if we could just go and stand so we could get a cut away shot. Um, So, um, for us to go, me and Mandy to go and stand next [00:11:30] to the Salvation Army while are having their prayer meeting, which we did mockingly standing there, you know, joining them. So this was our little protest in the film that lasts to this day to remind us of those who were a Guinness and a Guinness Badly. And, um, also finally, in the last shot of that film, uh, Mandy and my character walk away from the camera, and the director instructed me to just ad lib a few lines [00:12:00] to sort of wind it up while walking away into the distance so I couldn't help but say to my co-star in that scene, Have I ever told you about the time I met this guy called Norm Jones? He was down on the street and got that little dig in there because Norman Bone Jones was a vehement opponent of homosexual law reform, along with Jeff Bray, Brook and the Labour Party, who I later served in the caucus with for a while. And I think I softened old Jeff down [00:12:30] by the time he retired. Um, so I'm being given up, uh, the wind up and there's an awful lot that we could, uh, talk about. But suffice to say that the opportunities that opened up to all of us, but certainly the likes of me in the years to come from the beginning with homosexual law reform and the vital and important human rights amendments in 1993 that then became all inclusive, assisted me greatly [00:13:00] to, um, seek out a career in politics at local government and central government level when they presented themselves. And although I had to deal with an awful lot of, um, you know, transgender transsexual sort of stuff me along with my very colourful past, Um At the end of the day, we have noted since homosexual law reform that while there is improvement to still come, [00:13:30] uh, that we have an attitudinal change in this country where we have won the hearts and minds of fair minded New Zealanders. And Lewis's marriage Equality Bill certainly showed us that. And that was only a short not even 10 years after civil unions and the resurgence of all that venal rhetoric that we heard back in the time of law reform. Uh, we've nailed it to people and winning respect in this country, and that's [00:14:00] what we needed to earn. And we have earned it very well. It was helped along at the time, coincidentally with law reform, that HIV and AIDS was, um, succumbing to the world. And we were having to take that on and the way the gay community cooperated, uh, with the non gay community in this country to address that issue, which was of some, uh, vital importance to all of us, helped us share the respect between each other and learn a hell of a lot [00:14:30] more, uh, than people knew before about who we really are and who we are are positive participants in our society, and we must continue to demand the equality in this nation that this nation has given us to date. Thank you. Thank you. [00:15:00] Um, thank you. Thank you. No. You know, you know, you can have our show ponies and our kind of game, um, that are out here all the time. But people who are out and proud all their lives and certainly through all their working lives and who include us in that life, um, is [00:15:30] one way to describe our next speaker. Malcolm Vaughan has been an institution in the Wellington hospitality scene for more than 30 years. I have known him most of my girl life. Um, he knew me when I was a boy for a wee while, and we used to be flatmates together, and we have done some ridiculous things together, but we have always been strong together, and we've been through the ups and downs of the roller coaster of our lives [00:16:00] as rainbow people in this country. So would you please give a warm welcome to the lectern to one of the greatest men who have, um, helped our community through fundraising through support through a advocacy through visibility and through providing us venues. Where can we can be who we are? Welcome, Malcolm Vaughan to the lectern. [00:16:30] I know what I can tell you. She's a pretty hard act to follow. She really is. I always said earlier on I was telling somebody earlier on this afternoon that, you know, Georgina is a great speaker, but she's one of those ones that you need to give her a microphone with a cord on it so you can fucking pull her off stage. I'm supposed to be standing here this evening telling you about, um, what it's my life has been, like with hospitality and and providing for the gay community and paying acknowledgement [00:17:00] to, um some people that are no longer with us tonight. Uh, I I've slightly done a little bit of a dire drive from that. I was going to speak free heartedly as I. I thought it would be more natural. And then I got to work this afternoon, and I, uh I thought No, no, I better write down a few notes, so I have seven pages of notes. OK, but I'm a little bit older now, and I thought Well, I'll just write big. So I don't have to get out my reading glasses to show my age 30 years of law reform. Who would have thought? I never [00:17:30] thought that I would see exactly where we are today. Growing up in the valley as a young teenager and going to one of the roughest schools tied to college and knowing that you were different was not easy. It was not easy. It was not easy at all. Homophobia was prevalent. There was one thing wrong with me. I liked boys. When I turned 15, I rocketed out of school and hit the bright lights of Wellington. My life [00:18:00] changed really, really changed. There were no nightclubs, no gay venues, nothing like that. There were places like the bistro bar and the tavern bar, and we used to do ourselves up. So we could, uh, sneak in there. It was great. Tavern bar had two exits. You saw the cops coming. You motored through one and motored out the other. Then you ran through upstairs to the Toledo Bar, waited till the cops left, and then you'd go back down there again. I did a few jobs. I ran away to sea. When I was 18 [00:18:30] years of age and I joined the Merchant Navy, I learned a lot. I learned a lot about myself. I met a lot of people of my ilk that were the same as me. Eventually I came ashore. I worked with a fantastic boy called George in the old Royal Oak Hotel. At one stage, George was a night porter, and I was the waiter in the oaks coffee shop. We got on fantastically we lived with, uh, the D SI should say of the coffee bar. Carol [00:19:00] and a, uh, male dancer and stripper Reon. We all lived together up in, uh, Buller Street. And, uh, George and I after work in those days, it was, uh, 11 o'clock closing time. George and I would, uh, leave our job at the Royal Oak Hotel. We'd scooter scooter. Sorry. Up to, uh, Buller Street, where we lived quickly throw on the drag, the hot pants to hold next to high heels and down to Carmen's down on Vivian Street. Georgie scored a job, and I'll never forget it. [00:19:30] Her first gig was wearing this yellow and black Malina Dietrich dress. She hated it. But she soon became a star there so everybody would go up to the club exotically and down to Carmen's. Our lives changed dramatically, eventually discovered there was a place, a place for people like us. And that was the Doring Society in Lampton Quay. Amazing place. A group of men got together. They opened up a gay club. Very discreet. Men only [00:20:00] unlicensed opened at 10 o'clock at night. $4 to get in the door, single zoning and beer from the fridge. Every member paid a membership per year. We all had a key to get in the door. We climbed three flights of stairs. Then we had to bang on the door or ring the bell. The curtain would come back. Oh, yes, you'll remember. You can come in. We had a great time. The club got raided quite a bit by the police, [00:20:30] unlicensed, but it survived over the year it grew, we moved to street. It was fantastic. It was surviving well. And as Georgie mentioned then Elie came to town from Auckland and opened a Elie's Night club in Wellington, Wellington's first official legal gay and lesbian nightclub, something that was dedicated just to the gay and lesbian people. It was just for them and about them. And as Georgie mentioned, she had the fabulous bloomers review [00:21:00] in Auckland. Brett, be Shepherd, Tony Kalevi and his partner, John. They would fly the girls down. They gave us a space and a place to be who we were. It was fantastic. It was really, really fantastic. Suddenly I felt I had a place I belonged. I belonged in society, our society. We had somewhere truly tremendous to go. Somebody actually cared about us. [00:21:30] Homosexual law reform, gay liberation. It was all raising its head. Homosexual law reform was going. Franz was in Bill Logan. Fantastic gentleman who worked so hard with Fran made it possible for all of us he would organise every meeting. Norman Jones. Jeffrey. I remember going out to, uh, Knox Church in Lower Hutt And the hatred these people were supposed to be Christians. [00:22:00] We were the scum of the earth. Kill a queer for Christ. Kick them back to the gutter where they come from. They were the war cries. It was horrible. It was not a nice time to grow up of this bill. And all of these people that put this bill together work so hard. Fran Wilde. Gavin Young Pink Triangle was on the scene. Trevor Mallard. All of these fantastic people that gave us an opportunity or sorry an opportunity and made it possible [00:22:30] for all of us to be where we were today. People by, uh, like Alison Laurie, Paul Logan, Ewan Painter Graham Russell, who was working on it full time, unpaid. Where would we be today without these people? These were the dream Weavers. Tony Kavi, Britt Shepherd, his partner John, Phil, Logan and Laurie. All of these people. You and painter. Where would we be today if we didn't [00:23:00] have these people? I can honestly say, as a young man growing up, I learned a lot. I thank you for everything that you've done for us as gay men. I thank the lesbian community for standing there and being behind it and helping us to get where we were. We were there to get us where we wanted to be. Des has been mentioned. Was running hug heterosexuals unafraid of gays? I've got to tell you right now, I [00:23:30] did have my suspicions about Des. I thought if he doesn't come out of that closet soon Nanny is gonna get him first. What I'm really trying to say is that we have lived a hard life. But it's been fantastic to get where we are 30 years later. And we would not be here today if it wasn't for all these dream weavers, the people that made it possible. And I really would like you all [00:24:00] to put your hands together and thank this amazing group of people. My husband and I and I have to apologise. Uh, er Scottie couldn't be here tonight. He said we have to have a function back at the bar which is involved with the Comedy Club. And so he had to shoot away for that. So I do apologise for that. He made sure he said, please apologise for me. And I said, Yes, I will. So we have done that, and of course [00:24:30] you are. I'm gonna get a plug in here. You are all invited back there later on. We've got a fantastic nice little DJ downstairs all the way from Korea. He's absolutely beautiful. He came to us in the bar and said, I play in gay nightclub in Korea, and I want to play in your bar. I play for nothing. And I mean, nobody plays for nothing. Nobody works for nothing. And on that, I mean everybody. Every one of you, every one of you. You all worked for nothing. You made it possible for us [00:25:00] to be who we are today. And now society has changed because of your hard efforts. Where would we be today without our dream weavers? Thank you, Alison. Thank you, Larissa. Thank you, Georgina. Thank you, everybody. Fran. Gavin! Bill! Thank you. Thank you for your time, [00:25:30] My loves. I would like you to give a huge round of applause for our next guest speaker. Cassie, can we do that? Where are you, Cassie? So Cassie is part of our new generation of gay community. She's gonna give it a little, which will only actually be five minutes. Exactly. Thank [00:26:00] you. And is coming as well. Ladies and gentlemen, they are the makers and shakers for today. Huge round of applause for our youth. [00:26:30] [00:27:00] I just want to start by greeting our land here of I want to greet this house. I want to greet the people of this house and the of this house as well. I want to. I want to greet everybody who has already passed at [00:27:30] everybody who has come before us. I want to. I want to greet everyone who is here today and everyone who you bring with you into this room here. Thank you. I want to thank the organisers and I want to thank all of the people who have we have heard tonight already. My name is Casey, and also I want to acknowledge that, um I am speaking here tonight with who, um might have been next in the programme, but actually, we are are joining [00:28:00] our here today, So I guess the concept for what we were speaking because I it's quite intimidating. Coming up in the space in front of all of these amazing people have paved the way for where we've been and me standing here at 26 and not even being alive when this happened. I think you know, that's quite an intimidating thing to do. One of the things that we really thought about and what we dream and we what we drew a strange inspiration from was the Octopus, actually, [00:28:30] and it's quite relevant because do many people know of the story of and right So in actually travelled from Hawaii following a a giant octopus who had grieved him and followed this octopus, or all the way across the Pacific Ocean. And then it was his partner who then said, Oh, [00:29:00] the land of the long white cloud, A woman who named this beautiful country of ours quite important. Now, this is just one story. But what did happen is that this giant octopus, there was a showdown. And across all of these different places, from Castle Point from to the Cook Strait and finally the battle took place at the top of the South Island in. So I just want to acknowledge [00:29:30] that we're not for that. We're not for that Octopus then wouldn't have made the journey and brought many other of his here, um, to settle on this on this land. So I wanted to acknowledge that 000, [00:30:00] 00! See, Oh, love Oh, love this song that we are singing This chant, which is a [00:30:30] chant, is talking about building a fire on an octopus. Actually, if you want to know more, we can tell you later, Um, and what we want to talk about here today is building a fire. So right now we know, even though there have been people who have traversed across difficult, difficult times, we still feel like there is a problem that run runs deep within our society and deep without our communities, and we still feel it. We feel it in many different places. It is multifaceted, [00:31:00] like the Octopus it is about teen suicide as it is about it, is about racism. It is about trans people within our prisons. Still, to this day it is many, many things, and we want to light a fire to illuminate that. So when we can see the problem, we can start to solve the problem. [00:31:30] Low A for Alpha I Oh, [00:32:00] as Elizabeth and many before us have told us, we must acknowledge that our Pacific and indigenous peoples have lived in these islands for many, many years before us, we have existed forever. We have existed before Europeans colonised our lands and made laws that then said we were not right and that we are unnatural. We cannot forget where these laws have come from, but we know that in our hearts and our minds where we stand. We are [00:32:30] right and we are correct And what we continue to do last week, I must acknowledge that one of our young people who, um who would could have been in here in this room today passed away due to suicide. This is not something that has just finished, and we leave as many people have mentioned here today. So I think it's really important that us as Pacific peoples, as indigenous peoples continue to come together and to build build so we can illuminate what we're doing. And we can work for a better world. [00:33:00] What? Oh, yeah. Oh, what a you Oh, what's it left you a move. What we are saying is that there is a fire, [00:33:30] there is a distant fire and there is a fire that is still burning within many of us. But we want to say we can't just be afraid of that fire. It hasn't at the good, and it hasn't at the bad. So just like when The Octopus came over here, it was, of course, a bad thing that was going on. But at the same time, it was a good omen that brought people over to our country here today and continued to pave the way for what the that we have. So what I'm we want to do [00:34:00] here today is we want to offer this fire. We cannot hold the grief of our communities, our pacific and our indigenous communities any longer. And what we want to do is we want to pass it on. And we want to leave that here. And it's nothing to be afraid of. It's OK, it's fine. But we want to continue to work together to keep illuminating and in the end of the day, make this place a safer place for our people. [00:34:30] Why are you what? What? [00:35:00] I would now like to introduce Bella Simpson to come up. Um, I've known Bella for quite a few years. Um, she's an amazing young human being who is creating real change [00:35:30] within her communities. Um, she I don't want to get into this whole brave and courageous people. However, I think that Bella absolutely fits within this bill, and, um, I have a lot of love and respect for her. Hello, everybody. Um, my name is Bella. Um, And when I was, I'm 19 [00:36:00] when I was 11. I came out as a young trans woman, and, um so I've been through primary, intermediate and High School as a trans woman. So firstly, I just wanted to say thank you to all those that fought so hard 30 years ago. I wasn't born yet. It was like 10 years before I was born. So it's a while ago. Um, it's really awesome that we can come together and celebrate such great things as a community. But it's also important to remember that this isn't the end of the road. We need [00:36:30] to remember those in our community that don't get a voice whose identity is often ignored. I could stand here for hours and list off identities that we haven't even mentioned this evening, but there just isn't enough time. I've already been asked to condense my speech, but you know that ain't happening. Um, so the one community that I do worry about because I'm involved in it is the trans community. One in five young Trans people are attempting suicide [00:37:00] every year. These numbers are way too high. This isn't OK. These young people are not feeling safe, supported, respected or heard myself and a good friend of mine, have been working for the proud conference this week to get youth opinions on the serious issues within our community. We've run workshops in Auckland and Wellington and we did a survey online. We had over 100 responses, both online and in person, and I'd love to stand here and say that these young people are feeling great with no issues. [00:37:30] But they are. The amount of young people who feel like their gender identity is invalid and ignored is deeply upsetting. What's more upsetting is that they aren't just feeling this way at home or even in school. But it comes from the media and within our own community, young, gender, diverse People just are not feeling like they are represented in this community. It worries me because I've often had these dark thoughts feeling like my identity is invalid and being ignored, and that I'm being tokenized [00:38:00] by my school and feeling like I was the only trans person. But the truth is, I'm not alone. There are hundreds of young trans people who are finding the confidence to be themselves. I'm lucky. I've always had a strong support system behind me, but think of those who don't these days. When a young when a young person comes out as gay, there'll be some stigma and a hinted bullying. But most people will be like to contact. It's great and you're so brave. But when a young trans person comes out, [00:38:30] they're constantly having to educate others, including their teachers. They having to deal with questions that no one should have to deal with. They're having to be out and proud and fight the discrimination. But it's funny, really, because this week I had a bit of a breakdown because my entire Pride Week includes attending events and conferences to speak up about young trans people and the issues that they're facing. I have the support to get me through this, and I don't mind doing it. But as long as [00:39:00] in the future, things start to change because it isn't fair that we keep putting all this responsibility onto our young trans community, and it makes it sound like it's just me. But the reality is just about every young Trans person feels like they have to do this, and this is a huge weight. They shouldn't have to carry and I think it all really hit me when I saw my endocrinologist in January and he said to me, I'm really sorry you haven't been able to be a normal teenager And that took me by surprise because I never thought about it like that over the school [00:39:30] holidays when I was younger, the other kids in my class would hang out, go to the beach, have sleepovers. I'd be off to a or a conference or running a workshop, educating others just, you know, simple teenage things. But as a community, we have a responsibility to change this so no one else gets left behind. Like what Leo said to Stitch and Lilo and Stitch, Hanna means family family means nobody gets left behind. But it's enough for me and someone who's done some really amazing work and has been [00:40:00] recognised by the queen is Tedy for setting up, um, inside out. She's a national coordinator and she's been doing some really amazing work, so I'll pass it over to her. Um, and I'd also like to acknowledge all of those who have gone before for us who have paved the way for us all to be standing [00:40:30] here celebrating the 30th anniversary of homosexual law reform in a I feel so lucky to have been born in the nineties after that bill passed and to have grown up in a time, um, where people in New Zealand are free to live out their relationships openly free of that legal persecution. And I'm really, really grateful for that. And for all the stories that have been shared tonight, which I think, um, especially us in the younger community, we don't get to hear those. So it's just incredible to have the opportunity to really hear about you know, how this happened [00:41:00] and how we are standing where we're standing. I went to the first high school, um, that we're aware of in the Asia Pacific region to have a Queer Strait Alliance group, and that completely changed my experience of understanding my sexuality and being able to come out and be open about it, because I was an environment that, for the most part accepted my kind of diversity. So now I work for inside out where our vision is to make sure every young person of a of a diverse sexuality, sex or gender in a has a sense of belonging and safety in their community [00:41:30] and school inside out on our team of volunteers work tirelessly to make change happen. As to other groups all around the country and in Wellington, we're working so that the young people growing up now don't have to face the same struggles that we did, just like many of our elders did for us. We want them to have a better. In the last five years since I've left high school, we've already seen huge changes. Almost every region in Aotearoa now has a Queer Youth group supporting young people in their communities. Half the schools in Wellington [00:42:00] and an estimated prob probably about 60 around the country have Queer Strait alliance groups working to create that support in their schools. Marriage, equality. Past work is being done in in Auckland at the moment which is hopefully gonna result, Um, in the first kind of trans health clinic in New Zealand. Hopefully that that will be the first of many, um, statistics on gender diverse people are starting to be collected. We might even make it into the census. Um, all of that stuff is huge, and it's happening in our lifetime, which is really, really exciting. But as we [00:42:30] know, it's not enough. In the last 10 years, um, there has been no change in relation to the amount of bullying young people of diverse sexualities, sexes and genders face in high schools. 10 years is a long time to see no change. One in five young people in our community are being bullied on at least a weekly basis, and in within that group, over 43% are actually receiving physical violence as part of that bullying. Um, and it's just really sad because those aren't just shocking statistics. [00:43:00] Those are real stories of young people that we work with, and largely in Aotearoa. It's young people that are supporting other young people, like others before me have said, and we're doing a pretty incredible job. But without proper support and resourcing, it's gonna continue to be a very slow change. We need a whole community approach to see things moving faster. I also want to take a moment to acknowledge a part of our community that hasn't been spoken about tonight. Um, with the exception of at the very beginning, [00:43:30] when Elizabeth acknowledged bi phobia in our communities. I wanna give a shout out to all those bisexual pansexual, poly sexual fluid, queer people, all of those who don't fit neatly into the boxes as straight or gay and lesbian that. Did you know that the first pride march was actually started and organised by their bisexual women in New York to commemorate the Stonewall riots a year later? [00:44:00] I'd love to hear the stories of bisexual people who were here, um, supporting homosexual law reform in New Zealand. But I don't know of anybody to acknowledge, because those Kate Jones those stories aren't being told. Mhm bisexual people or those attracted to more than one gender have been here from the beginning. Yet we still have to fight to be acknowledged 46 years ago. Since that first pride march and 30 years on from homosexual law reform in New Zealand, bisexual people are some of the most at risk and vulnerable people in our communities. Across the [00:44:30] gender spectrum, many facing high rates of discrimination, depression, anxiety, substance abuse and intimate partner in sexual violence. Bisexual people are too often erased and forgotten. When we talk about our rainbow communities, Biphobia is perpetrate perpetrated from people within our communities. This can look like denying by people access to spaces, questioning their identities and validating their sexuality and continuing to spread negative stereotypes. I think 2016 is the time to put an end to that and to [00:45:00] make sure those of us in the middle of the sexuality continuum are included. When you talk about homophobia and transphobia, we need to be talking about Biphobia, too, and it is a specific and different kind of discrimination. I wanted to thank the Wellington, um, bisexual women's group because we know that Wellington Pride is actually doing a great job of having bi visibility. Thanks to that group, there's a bi friendly picnic picnic happening next Sunday. There's bi films, research and workshops being presented in the Oceana Yeah, Human Rights Conference. It [00:45:30] makes such a difference to feel seen and have these actively included. But it needs to be an effort coming from our entire rainbow community, not those of us from this identity constantly trying to push our way. And and I think this really extends to other marginalised groups, too. Do asexuals, a romantic intersex or gender queer people feel included respect and part of pride part of our communities, I don't know. There is no pride for some of us without liberation for all of us, said Marsha P Johnson, one of the activists who took part in the Stonewall [00:46:00] riots. I think her words are still true to this day. It is important to come together and celebrate our successes as long as we're not forgetting the struggles, many of our rainbow communities are still facing and fighting as long as we don't leave them behind. I look forward to seeing where we are in five years time, another 30 years time, and I hope that we can say our community really did that together across generations, raising up our most vulnerable and fighting for their struggles, too. I would now like to invite Man Bruce [00:46:30] Mitchell to speak money is the founder and executive director of its the Intersex Trust A in New Zealand and one of a few international activists in the world. Money has been an incredible treasure to our community and has particularly gone out of their way to support our youth organisations. So please welcome man. Thank you. [00:47:00] I know it's been a marathon night tonight So, um, we're getting towards the end. It's a privilege to have my fellow Elga supporter board member with me and I'll introduce shortly to fellow human beings. It's indeed a great privilege and an honour to be with you all tonight. This country kid from the King [00:47:30] country, a small remote sheep and cattle farm in a valley called Yes, My name is Marie Bruce Mitchell. Yes, I'm an intersex person, and I'm feeling the responsibility for holding this tonight. I've been since my late teens. A queer identified person came out as a young teacher as a lesbian, and more than 40 years ago [00:48:00] I was at the time teaching up the river at would travel down the River Road to the then secret Greek meetings in at Terry and George's Place. I've been racking my brains. How did I even find the group? No Google, no Internet and homosexuality and, it was known then was a criminal activity. What I do remember is how wonderful and how important it was to find that group. [00:48:30] I felt like I'd found family. I remember the warm welcome I got there. I also remember going to functions in Palmerston North the cars splitting up, driving around the block, checking to make sure we were not being tailed. The fear, the pragmatism and the plain old fashioned guts that those meetings, support and social functions involved. In those days, I also remember, [00:49:00] and it's been referred to tonight the bigotry and hate that surfaced and was given visible voice during the time leading up to the passing of the Homosexual Law Reform Act. It was wonderful and slightly astonishing that tonight we are gathered here in the Beehive to map this historic event, to have an opportunity to reflect, to remember [00:49:30] all the people that were involved in the process of decriminalisation. So my own story. 20 years ago, 1996 I travelled to America to attend the world's first ever retreat for intersex people, nine Americans and myself representing the world. At that point, I changed my name to Marie was identifying as and speaking about being a non-binary queer, identified intersex person. [00:50:00] It was this retreat that people organised that gave birth to the modern intersex movement. Before I go further an explanation. What is intersex? Intersex is an umbrella term, describing the people with born with variations of internal and external sex anatomy, resulting in bodies that can't be classified as the typical male or female. We usually taught that sex is merely black and white, male or female. [00:50:30] That's simply not true. There are a lot of awesome grey areas in the middle that can make someone into sex prevalence one and 2000 live births, or to create a visual image, the same number of people who are naturally born redheads. As an aside, I had brown hair, and my three siblings and my mom all had red hair. For the last 60 years, people who are born and identified into [00:51:00] sex have been treated under a pathologize medical model that sees the world in very black and white. No grey ways, a model that is seen as sex and our bodies normalised with surgery and all the use of hormones. For many of us, this model has been profoundly traumatising. Our efforts to significantly change this medical model have thus far been futile. This despite a constant self [00:51:30] narrative from intersex people right across the world of the damage and harm this model does to us humans to our families, the international intersex movement had a major step change in May 2013 when the world's first international intersex organising forum took place in Brussels. The historic event was brought together 24 activists representing 17 [00:52:00] intersex organisations from all continents. The event was organised and funded by the International Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual Trans and Intersex Organisation. The forum agreed on the demands aiming to end discrimination against intersex people and to assure the right of bodily integrity and self discrimination and self determination to put an end to the mutilating [00:52:30] and normalising practises such as genital surgery. These international gatherings have continued with the last and largest in Malta in 2013 and I want to take a moment to acknowledge that that shift change moment that created one in recognising intersect, adding I to the alphabet soup but more in its determination to not speak on [00:53:00] behalf of intersex people. Rather, it's commitment and strategy that determined that intersex people needed to speak for themselves more that the voice needed to be globally. Representative. We have tonight the executive director of Beat is Renato is here to attend the first [00:53:30] Elga Oceania conference which will open at on Wednesday evening. Renato, it seems very right that you're here to witness and be part of this historic human rights event. This evening a wonderful conference will be held at the Otago Medical School. Yes, the irony is not lost on me. Please go to the website and get more details of the conference. We're not sold [00:54:00] out yet. There is an opportunity for late registrations. I want to also thank you. My fellow Oceania board member. It was who had the mad idea to bring our conference to Wellington after the original proposal for Auckland hit an impossible roadblock. We had only eight months to organise the conference out of nothing. No funding, no structure. The fact we have done [00:54:30] so is solely due to the extraordinary efforts of the local LGBTI community and its allies. And I thank you so much. Finally, tonight is an honouring a celebration. But I want to make a plea that we use this event to launch a renewed figure and a termination to change the things that are not right in our community. I am a mental health professional. [00:55:00] If you look at the stats, even the most privileged members of our community do not reach health equivalency with their cisgender heterosexual counterparts. Reason. Discrimination, hate prejudice, Homo transphobia, minority stress. Does damage go out into the margins and into the less visible? The less recognised supported means members of our community [00:55:30] and the stats are horrifying. And our schools, yes, there is improvement, but we still have systemic rates of bullying and lack of support. Very few of our nation's schools are safe places for our community. Our youth suicide statistics are one brutal indicator. Our prisons in New Zealand have never been safe places for our community. That has to change. [00:56:00] We have significant access issues to safe respect or health care. In so many areas, we still operate on tiny intersex infants. There is still inadequate L BT training, diversity awareness, basic information and many of our major government institutions. In fact, in some areas in recent years I would suggest we've gone backwards. Yes, there have been gains, but [00:56:30] they're not enough. We can't we must not stop. The LGBTI community as a whole represents 12% of the population. We have nowhere near access to 12% of the nation's resources. The reform must go on while We have people dying members of our community with no sense they belong. Access to safe health, healthy housing, work, a sense of trust, a feeling [00:57:00] safe, free from violence, feeling heard, valued, respected or have any hope for a dignified, purposeful life and a sense of future. We have failed. It's not time to go home yet. There is lots to be angry about. Disappointed and frustrated. There is work to do. Lots of work to do. Thank you. [00:57:30] You've got to learn as you guys. So I will be very quick. Um, firstly, this is a an important occasion. It's 30 years and, uh, 30 years since the homosexual law reform. And I just really want to say thank you to everybody that's been involved in the community. I. I wanted to acknowledge the fact that we were gifted a fire. We really are looking at this conference to be able to reignite the fires and the passions and take their issues forward. [00:58:00] So my challenge is to the politicians is Please listen to what people are saying tonight and the future politicians in the room, because I'm sure there's plenty of you here. Listen to the stories come to the conference, join in the discussion and please be change agents for our community. Now, you know what? We've got some fabulous Two more speakers. Can [00:58:30] we do two more speakers? Can we do that? These people are the people you need to know. They've got all the money in the world. They're the ones that have stepped up graciously and supported Wellington Pride Week. They've supported the the festival, the parade, our little as they say in French. Thank you. Ladies [00:59:00] and gentlemen. I would like to introduce you to the lady that's speaking on behalf of a NZ. Where is she, my loves? She's gone home. She's gone out to have a cigarette. Nope. Here she comes. Big round of applause, My love. This is Antonia Watson. She is actually my stunt double in the next Zena once a warrior movie. As you can see, we're both blonde. We're both size [00:59:30] 10. Thank you, Andrea. It it it's actually silver. Unfortunately for those who don't who don't know me, I'm Antonia Watson, chief financial officer of a NZ New Zealand, and I'm executive sponsor of a N Z's Pride Network. I'm very humbled and honoured to be here as we celebrate and reflect on this milestone. And I'd really [01:00:00] like to acknowledge all the incredible people who have shared stories tonight the courage, spirit and determination that you've shown as a as an inspiration to us all. I'd also like to acknowledge our host the Rainbow Parliamentary Network team out Wellington and Co-chair and festival director Adrian Girl and Co-chair and, of course, Fran Wild and all like her who have fought for fundamental human rights. [01:00:30] One of the reasons I was lucky enough to be invited here tonight is that we paid for the drinks. Unfortunately, they've been packed up, but never mind. But seriously, a NC has been a longstanding supporter of the pride community in Wellington, and once again, we're very pleased to be sponsoring out in the park. And we're also thrilled to bring back our fabulous GT MS for every [01:01:00] non a NZ customer that uses their card in a GTM, we donate a dollar to outline a nonprofit counselling service for people dealing with gender and sexuality issues. Last year we were able to donate more than $6000 which I think is great in a country where people will walk a mile to avoid other bank ATM fees like my husband, but I'd like to write a much bigger check this year, so please encourage your friends and family to use GT MS where possible. [01:01:30] And while our GT MS are a public statement of support of pride, a huge part of our campaign is actually about our staff and encouraging an environment where people feel comfortable being themselves at work. I'd like to make a very special shout out to our very own La Saint Redfern, who I can't see fabulous. Oh, another 10 yes, I'll just stand here. [01:02:00] It's a measure of how far we've come when I think about a NZ pride activities today. Thinking back 30 years, who would have imagined that the biggest bank in the country, a typically stuffy and conservative organisation, would have so many staff and their families marching in the pride parade? Or that they would turn ATM S into gay T MS or a NZ into gay NZ, or become a major sponsor of the famous Sydney Mardi Gras? And who would have imagined that gaining Rainbow Tick accreditation is now an essential part of HR performance [01:02:30] measures. Some people did imagine this. These things happen now because of those people, many of whom are here in this room who who bravely push for change and continue to do so today. So on behalf of a NZ, I want to offer our congratulations on your achievements. It's truly an honour and a privilege to be invited here tonight. And we look forward to working together with the pride community for many more years to come. [01:03:00] How delicious was she? Did you think she was actually me? You did, didn't you? Now you know another woman we should all be proud of. I stood very tall and screamed loudly and a little flea voice that only fleas could hear. Because I'm a lady, I would like to present to [01:03:30] you now our mayor of Wellington, she is now just to let you all know, just in case y'all don't know the mayor erected a rainbow coloured flag. Hold on, I'll say it again. The near erected a rainbow coloured flag. She did in honour of Pride Week. Ladies and gentlemen, be upstanding Celia Wade Brown Upstanding, please. Upstanding. [01:04:00] Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Parliamentary hosts former mayor and MP. I put it the other way round. It's great to to be part of something that was started so long ago, and it sort of just made such a difference in this city and this country. I'd also like to acknowledge, [01:04:30] um, Georgina had to go, But the fact that she was both a mayor, the first trans mayor and MP she was awesome too. So Kiwis and international activists, thank you for inviting me to be here. And, um, let's thank the rate payers for supporting, um, out in the park at the week long Pride [01:05:00] Festival and these activities. And thanks to my lovely staff, it's gonna sound bad. It wasn't a personal erection. OK, I have to thank the staff who hold up the flag on the town hall. We have a lot with flags we got, and it is a pretty welcoming city, but it's still not great. I was just reminded because [01:05:30] we do try to have, um, you know, the all gender loos. And I remember there was quite a furore about Oh my goodness, we're not gonna have dark and dangerous corridors, and anyone can go in without trying to be a sort of binary decider about where they're going to go to the loo. And even now there is a workplace in Wellington where the managers fairly, um, forward thinking, said, Well, these are everybody's loose, [01:06:00] but people have gone out and stuck. This is a male load. This is a female loath because they weren't comfortable with that kind of inclusion in what one might have thought was a reasonably progressive workplace. So I make it my point to go to the Tane side. Another little gender issue. But it's all symbolic. Um, what a around there was Don't believe everything you read, but what [01:06:30] a brow was about the traffic lights. Now I'm sorry, but, dear NZTA, I do not regard a Testero testosterone enhanced, very broad shouldered male stick figure as necessarily the only representative of the human shape. Um two it to actually get Kate Shepherd up was one thing. But we're now going for Carmen. [01:07:00] No, Sadly, the first design had a snake. And while NZT a may move a little about the human figure, they said no animals. So, um, we've got to do a little bit of a redesign there, but Those are the sorts of things that make it actually fun to do the right thing as well. And we have to have some fun. And that's one of the reasons that I just love [01:07:30] the fact that out in the park has expanded to the whole week and we're gonna have a lot. It's gonna be a lot of fun, a lot of dancing, a lot of singing and a lot of sequins. But there's some fairly serious things happening in this week as well, and there's a lot of struggles to overcome. Um, one of the things is, as Manny mentioned in particular, it's really sort of obvious for this country to condemn female genital mutilation. But [01:08:00] there needs to be the same outcry about forced medical medical normalisation as well. We are all different. We are who we are and we should be able to make those choices when we're ready and just to say Rawa and money also awesome job with Ilg A. We need to use our leadership internationally. It's wonderful that there's been 30 years of homosexual law reform here, [01:08:30] but there's still more than 70 countries internationally where they where it's still illegal, to be gay, and that's not good enough. And if we are the lead, if we're the capital of this wonderful free society and it's not that, you know, there's still a lot to do, we need to light that far. Thank you, Tabby. We need to light that fire internationally. We're not just the world's top dozen liveable city because we've got nice [01:09:00] view used in a reasonable economy. We are one of the world's top livable cities because we are diverse and because we love being diverse and because we're going to recognise and welcome that diversity. So be loud, be proud. And I declare the Pride festival officially open. [01:09:30] Do you know what I don't know about you all. But I'm clapping again. I'm going to have to send that, um, take myself to Thailand and get the finished product. Huge round of applause for our gracious, gracious mayor. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. The reason why I'm doing that is because I'm trying to wake you all up Now I'm going to introduce you to my [01:10:00] husband. He doesn't know it yet. We haven't canoodled as yet. Give me five minutes in a black clear charge looking like Beyonce. Ladies and gentlemen, Grant Robertson. If if I'm any any later home tonight, I'll be divorced by elf anyway. So you might be on, uh, Amanda. Um, I am the last person to speak before, um, Adrianne and Karen, the two chairs of of, um of the out wellington. Um, and [01:10:30] you've all been here a very, very long time tonight, and I thank you for your your fortitude, Uh, in being here, I just want to say three things. The first of those is that we do stand on the shoulders of giants, and we've seen that tonight. And and I as a person who was 14 years old when homosexual law reform went through the New Zealand Parliament, I was a terribly geeky young boy in Dunedin, and I cut out from the newspaper who voted for and who voted against the homosexual law reform bill. And I've still got [01:11:00] that piece of paper today. But for those who did support it to Fran, to Trevor to to bill to the whole team of people. Another heartfelt thank you on behalf of all of us. Uh, tonight. So thank you for for what you've done. Um, secondly, um, To take up the challenge of new generations, I want to take up, um, the point that was made very articulately, particularly by Bella that we are talking about communities and people in our communities who still need our help. And the challenge that is there for [01:11:30] all of us is to take what we've learned from the past and offer that up. And I really take your point, Bella, about being the person who always has to speak. Uh, we all have to share the fact that while we've made enormous progress in 30 years, there are still challenges to be met, still people to be supported. And as a kid community, we owe it to one another to be there for the next generations. And so, Bella, I wanna make my commitment. And I hope on behalf of others who've come before, as well. And then finally, uh, just to say [01:12:00] that it is a great pleasure to be in a city like Wellington where we do celebrate all our different communities. All the different people who are part of here, um, out, uh, out. Wellington has done a terrific job in pulling this together. It is a fantastic week. Please be a part of it. And please be a part of a city where we put above all other things our kindness to each other. I'd like to make that the thing that we do as a city, uh, that we are kind to one another to support each other And be proud of who we are as a city. [01:12:30] Now, ladies and gentlemen, because he said, be kind. I hope you're gonna be kind, Daddy. Just letting him know. Ladies and gentlemen, we have been privileged. We have created a historic moment tonight being part of the 30th anniversary for the remembrance of the Homosexual Law Reform Act. I'd like to take [01:13:00] this opportunity before I pass it on to the committee to thank my cohos cohorts is the cohorts cohos the cos the cogs Adrian and Marcela for putting this event together for doing the most amazing triple somersaults backwards and calling themselves Nadia comic while they're eating peanut butter and doing their nails. Huge round of applause for those two ladies, please. I'd like to take this opportunity [01:13:30] to thank everyone that walked before me so that I can be me. I'd like to thank Bella and our youth for showing me that I can be an even better person because they already are. I'd like to thank you all for your patience and your diligence, your honesty, in terms of coming here. To show that you care. As Grant says, let Wellington City be a city of caring. And as our gorgeous mayor has represented [01:14:00] publicly, she's here to support us. Let's be who we are meant to be. Ladies and gentlemen, we don't need Oprah Winfrey or Maya Angelo. We got our auntie here, Elizabeth. She'll tell us what to do. Ladies and gentlemen, I now hand it to the people that are gonna make this week fabulous to the committee to the out in the Park Committee, The Wellington Committee. Let's just meet the committee, shall we, ladies and gentlemen, [01:14:30] be upstanding for our committee that, um I just I just want to say that I am completely overwhelmed right now. Um, this has been a a few months in the making this evening, and I [01:15:00] am so happy that you stuck you stuck around until the end. I know we went over time, but the idea for tonight was first to launch the Wellington Pride Festival. To I thank Mayor Celia Wade Brown for officially launching just a moment ago. Um, but this year we really took on [01:15:30] sort of the the weight of this year. Um, Karen and I are the co-chair of that Wellington um Inc. Which put on out in the park and this year decided to put on this festival, Um, and also the Wellington Pride parade for the second year. And this is the wonderful members of the at Wellington board this year. We have so many other volunteers, Um, and Tim here, who isn't officially an at Wellington member, [01:16:00] has put together the entire programme for the festival. So he really needs to be acknowledged. Um, and but on top of just saying, Hey, let's have a festival. Let's open it. We just thought this year marks the 30th anniversary since the homosexual law reform was passed. It's also the 30th anniversary since the first gay and lesbian Fair that Des Smith [01:16:30] first organised to lobby against um the the law or to lobby for the law reform. And we just took the responsibility to really honour that and we really wanted to have a forum where we reflected on and remembered what happened 30 years ago and and prior. Um, but also, let's not forget that there are still many issues facing our community today, and so we just [01:17:00] really wanted to have a diverse representation of speakers, and I didn't think that any of them needed to be silenced or shortened. So I'm thankful that you've all stuck around to this point because we all needed to hear everything that they had to say, and they all brought different perspectives. And they are, you know, just many things that we need to do. But we also need to celebrate. We need to celebrate how far we've come. We have a nine day festival [01:17:30] coming up starting now, starting today, we have nine days of really diverse really, really weird variety of events because, yeah, when you're talking about the nine day guest home I love Yes. Could it have anything to do with this sitting on your have? I'm just so we've got a lot of events [01:18:00] going on in those nine days, Um, and the two other really major events that we're organising as a Committee are the Wellington Pride Parade and out in the park, which is the 30th anniversary event in the park next Saturday. And Karen has really been I've been the one doing all sorts of stuff for this opening ceremony, and I've been, you know, talking to the media and that sort of thing. But Karen has really been doing so in toilets. Exactly. So I let her to talk to you a little bit about the parade and the fair. [01:18:30] Thank you. Um, yeah, I'm not sure I can add much to what Adrian has said. Really? But we're really looking forward. Obviously, we've got the nine days of, um, lots of events over the festival week, but really, the out in the park fair is still very much the flagship event that was started 30 years ago. And we hope that we're still doing it justice now. So this year it will be in Waitangi Park. We aren't going to be rained off. And we have also got the parade, which we really, really want to see lots of you in this year. So this will be the first time for a number of years [01:19:00] that we've had such a large parade. So we're really looking forward to seeing you there next next Saturday. We've got a whole day of entertainment, seven hours of full entertainment, loads of stalls and just loads of general fun going on for the whole day. And really, I just want to thank all of these guys again who have worked so hard all year on getting the fair and the festival up and running for this week. So thank you. And [01:19:30] that's actually the last thing we're gonna say. Except let's all go to S and MS and have a party. And start this this festival. Please join us. Yeah.
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