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So we've just finished. Um, our first kind of official day of there's about 100 young people staying over at How do you feel after that kind of massive marathon of speakers? What have you What was the cool stuff about it? It was a cool. I hadn't really heard much of the gay history of New Zealand before, so it was like a real eye opener that had that, um and also the stuff about, like, I knew that ancient cultures had, [00:00:30] um, gay people and transgender people and stuff. But to hear it like that, it was actually accepted. Like I didn't I hadn't realised the magnitude of how well accepted it was. So that was that was really cool to hear. I think that it was really great, as as an immigrant to this country to hear how well, how the different ways that the American history and the New Zealand history have overlapped. Um, till about the eighties, when New Zealand start doing better than America because we're nowhere near [00:01:00] the stuff that you got that that you have here and for me tonight. The also the really cool part was hearing from Bruce about the marae and about a lot of stuff that really, for me is a great connection as a Native American and and my people and and living on a it's a lot different than living on a reservation where you were forced to be by by the white man. And so, yeah, I think that was my favourite part of the night with the non queer part. And [00:01:30] what was it particularly like? Was there anything that kind of stuck in your head about New Zealand history that you didn't know about gay and lesbian stuff? Um, I guess I kind of knew it all a bit, But like, um, I think it was the details of it and the dates and like how kind of relatively recent, all of the stuff is like, I know that it is like just the last century, but it really brought it home that it was actually like we haven't had these rights for very long, like they are still really new, whereas other people have had it for centuries and centuries and centuries. [00:02:00] And, um, the stuff that wasn't New Zealand, but, um, having it pointed out that it was just like during the plague and like that that recently that the attitudes entirely changed because that's that's quite recent. Really. Like, I just always had it in my head as it always being that way, you know? And so that was really cool to Well, not cool, but, you know, just interesting to find that out. So, um, [00:02:30] are you guys all in the same house group together? Yeah. And and is this your first? Um, did you go to last year or two years ago to So this is your first never been to And how How have you found the first day? Um, the first day has been pretty good. It's been awesome. Like meeting new people from all around the country and seeing where they're from and what they bring and stuff. So, yeah. Where abouts are you from? I'm down from Auckland. Yeah. So yeah, no. So far it's been really good. Should be cool. [00:03:00] And how are you feeling? Have you sat on a before? Sorry. She's just eating her chocolate biscuit. And I asked her a question, and I haven't I've been on a for maybe, like, a whole day, but never stayed overnight, so This is like the first, and I've never had, like, a proper welcome like that. So it was really, really cool. It was awesome. And how are you feeling about sleeping in a room with about 50 other young queer people? I don't know. I've got [00:03:30] two really chatty boys next to me, so I don't think I'm gonna be doing much sleeping. They're already asking me, like every question in the sun. No, thank God. We'll see how it goes. Night one. Thank you. So, Mike, you've got you've got the resident cat here. Yeah, her name is Kitty. I've decided. And you this is the first time you've been on, like, a big, queer kind of camp thing. It is, Actually, it's probably the biggest queer [00:04:00] thing I've done. It's bigger than the ball, which is pretty big. And it's it's been so much fun. And how are you finding the first day? Intense. It's a lot more work than I actually thought it would be. The training day was exhausting, and my bum is very tender from sitting on the pews. Um, but it's been really interesting, and it's it's great, like I don't think I've ever had a hongi before, and so it's really and that was a bit unnerving. But it's really interesting to see sort of the Maori culture and how [00:04:30] it intertwines with the queer culture. And, yeah, it's just been a really interesting experience. And what's something you've kind of remembered from today or that stuck out from many of the speakers? Or, UM oh, there's been so much, um, probably just the way that our Maori were same sex and how the same sex history. It was there a lot. And it [00:05:00] was it was possibly a political thing that it was illegal because of Henry the eighth. I think that's the most interesting thing that I found out Cool. Thank you very much, Mike. You're very welcome, Hannah. This audio was brought to you by out there. For more information, visit WWW dot out there dot org dot NZ.
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