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What? How did you feel about the first session this morning? Oh, it's really fantastic and interesting. Um, it's really good in participating as a person from Nepal. Um, did it say anything that helped you to understand what you might do next? When you go back to Nepal, I understand that you're a game. You're perhaps a game. Uh, that [00:00:30] means, uh, I can see with my friends that I got new knowledge in New Zealand and a and a different knowledge. What is the legality for being gay in Nepal? Ok, um, in 2007, our Supreme Court of Nepal, they gave order to the government for [00:01:00] equal opportunity, opportunity to LGBTI and same sex marriage and for everything, like men and all men. But the government, they are not applying aid. It's very difficult. So then then then uh uh right now, uh, current moment, we are making a new constitution in file. Then there is one [00:01:30] MP F member from gay community, and he is trying to include every agenda of sexual and gender marriage. I think our MP from Nepal, he is coming today, and he is also key Speaker of Friday. I read something about him. He he's a new and also gay that he first time coming off as a gay member in Nepal. Parliament. First time [00:02:00] to the police. Persecute you? Um, yes, sometimes not me, but you know, my friends, a lot of friends, uh, the state and put in prison. Yeah, they used to put in prison, but right now, after Supreme Court order is reduced. So it's it's a little bit safer. Since the courts have [00:02:30] acted coming to Wellington it it can be a lot easier to be gay here. What would you like to hear from Wellington people, or or people from New Zealand or the kind of support you'd like Like to say, You know, Wellington is very clean and beautiful and ocean and people are very, very, you know, good, because they respect each other and for gay people. And it's very easy [00:03:00] to, you know, to tell them that she's my girlfriend. He's my boyfriend. It's very easy to tell, you know, But in a we don't have, we cannot say that he's my girlfriend. He's my boyfriend. We cannot introduce. It's very difficult, but here it's very easy. What would you like. What kind of help can people in New Zealand give people in Nepal? Um, yeah, just like I want to tell I be for two years. [00:03:30] Uh, you know, as the first trans MP of New Zealand, she she went to Nepal and made lots of political leaders and also senior human rights official. Then, you know, she aware that sexual and gender man who really help from and, uh, they want to include their agenda in new constitution like this New Zealand, you know? [00:04:00] So you see New Zealand as a model? Yeah, because, you know, in Nepal and New Zealand we have very good relation because of in Man Hilary. So we really need different kinds of support, which which will help for our new constitution and for our community, since there is still discrimination. So New Zealand government or they can't help to [00:04:30] the GB i in different way. Yes. So people who visit from New Zealand to Nepal, people who are politicians or business people if they're positive about the sexual agenda, the identity, the agenda Yeah, they were very negative. But you know, slowly it's changing because of lobby because of them. We do different kinds of presentation [00:05:00] regarding sexuality. It was very difficult. But now it's slowly. It's going to change, but we have to do last last thing still. Now, what are you looking forward to in this conference? What's the next dream you're going to go to? Yeah, Firstly, um, I I'm I took part in drawing sports. Then. Secondly, I'm going to, uh, participate [00:05:30] in three days conference. And after I'm going to spend one week in Auckland. So here, um, this I'm getting different kinds of knowledge. Not only, but here is geographical movement. Then, you know, we believe that New Zealand is a developed country, but Nepal is pretty poor and developing country. So when I back to my country, whatever I learn [00:06:00] here, I can apply in my daily work for our community so it will help to push government and for society. I'm also a student of sociology and, you know, in our University of Nepal, it's really very difficult to get admission, admit, you know, to get enrolled in college if they see transgender. He is transgender lesbian, you know, they [00:06:30] they will not get take admission and also some, you know, Polish army. They are fired from army. If police officer know that she making relation with lesbian or gay, they know more job so and a lot of transgender They are going to street for sex order and due to sex. Or there is also, you know, a high rate of HIV. So it's very difficult. Would it help if [00:07:00] that in in this conference there are gay and lesbian police people? Would it help if some of those visited Nepal and talked to people there? Yeah, she is lesbian. Then she we army and she fired from army. Then she kept in jail 60 days. Then she is also coming here with me. Then she is going to do presentation that How did [00:07:30] she join in Army? How did she fired from Army? He is doing so. It will be great. So a lot will know that her story So a lot of will lobby her story so it will help to for our movement. You could because of that story, ask for help from the army people here who are gay, Um, and for a gay and lesbian and police [00:08:00] who are gay and lesbian, perhaps to to to argue the case for greater tolerance in Nepal.
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