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So the two sessions that, um, you attended, um, I went to the, um, a workplace. One which was really interesting. I came in at the end of that, and it was talking. Um, they were talking about out at work. Um, and, um, and different unions, you know, the, um, raising queer issues and different unions. Um, And then I went to, um, a very good one about, um, making schools safer for, um um GL BT I students. And, um, it [00:00:30] was really clear that you needed to put the gaze and focus your change on the structures of the school. Not on supporting the students, you know, because you can, uh, one of the things that was clear was you have the support groups and the students, but they get ghettoised, and the structure of the school stays the same. Very hetero, sexist. So that was really interesting and useful. And, um, I'm giving a workshop on lesbian media. Well, I'm part of a work I'd like to attend. That obviously [00:01:00] Yeah, media is very powerful, isn't it? But also very misused. Um, yeah, that's interesting. So what do you think you're likely to take away it perhaps too soon. But what would you like to take away personally yourself from? Well, um I had a discussion with one of the out at work people about developing a kit for unionists. Who, um, you know, GP T a unionists who want to do something to, um, raise [00:01:30] issues, Um, that we're concerned about in the unions in their workplaces. Um, and I would really love to see that, um, take a step closer to being developed, so that would be great. Um, and I'm also keen to get feedback on the Tamaki lesbian news set, which I'm involved in in Auckland. But we have quite a national readership, and I'll be talking about that at the workshop. Is there one particular trade union issue that you've identified? [00:02:00] Or is it do they inter relate interlock, um, all the issues into lock, But there's quite a lot of resistance, um, among some unions to even raising the issue at all. Um, and therefore unions are those unions are almost completely useless as support to workers who are discriminated against that work because of, um, their sexual identity or gender [00:02:30] identity. And, um, so you've got to start at home to change things. So, um, workplaces won't change. Um, very fast. Unless the unions support GL BT I workers. And that's, uh, that's a long running thing, isn't it? That that swimming for the conference to take away as well, I think that's great. Thank you. Do you want to ask me about the how did the It was really well organised. It was a very well organised meet. The volunteers were terrific. [00:03:00] Um, a lot of them had never run or been involved in a competition before, but the organisation trained them up, and they did really well. Um, and it ran to time. And the, um, announcer was great, and, um and the teams were very successful. Um, we had, um the three biggest teams were from Australia, Melbourne first in Sydney, then Brisbane. And the fourth biggest team was Auckland. So, um, Wellington was sort of like the fifth biggest [00:03:30] group. Um, and there were a lot of unaffiliated people, including, um, Kirsty Cameron, who broke three, um, records. And she's not gay. So that was that got into the paper and not the fact that all their wonderful gay swimmers, you know, had personal best and stuff. I got a personal best in my 53. I shaved two seconds off my time and I was absolutely stoked with that. And, um and I'm in Team Auckland. And, um, we did really well and we had several people who'd never competed before, and they had a really good time. So all of us [00:04:00] had a great time. It was a really, really good swimming competition.
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